Someday I will let you photograph me in the nude.
XXX OOO
Your Alternative photographer friend...
Jonathan.
with warmest wishes and regards.
I always like to hear peoples critizism as long as it is constructive.
Cheers and a bow to you Miss Judy. "smile"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Toning Cyanotype Brown
>
> On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Jonathan Hall wrote:
>
> > The comment of the cover image on Farbers book reminds me of how we all
see
> > differently. To one it is merely a figure study showing light and form.
To
> > another it is porn. To another it is about depression. To another it is
> > about quiet light and introspection. etc..
> >
> > I take no offense at your comment Judy. On the contrary it reminds me
of
> > how different we all are. The way we see. The different thoughts
images
> > evoke.
>
> Jonathan, I confess I opened your e-mail somewhat flinched, thinking oh
> what have I done now.. and thank you for your good-natured reply. HOWEVER,
> if I can't correct the entire world, I am nevertheless compelled to point
> out that "naked lady" is NOT NOT NOT a neutral art convention.
>
> Light and form can as easily be shown on a green pepper or a fat old naked
> lady, and she has TEXTURE, too-- cellulite. When I was in art school we
> always preferred the fat old women models -- much more interesting to
> draw. That photographers do their "studies" on slender, shapely, sexually
> desirable YOUNG naked ladies is more proof than any argument I could make.
>
> That "nudes" nearly always mean "female nude" in photography and
> that there are almost no male nudes by heterosexual men, etc. etc. also
> speaks worlds. Very few male photographers of naked ladies deny the sexual
> charge, incidentally.
>
> If that's their pleasure, fine with me... I have nothing against porn
> either... I just ask for truth in labelling -- don't call it art, or a
> "neutral" art convention. It may be art, sometimes it is, but neutral it
> isn't. It's an eroticized stereotype.
>
> Of course stereotypes abound, especially in photography, but this one is
> harmful to all women -- in the way that stereotypes of, say, dancing
> barefoot minstrels, were harmful to African-Americans. Those minstrel
> images are revisited now in the spirit of nostalgia, also become highly
> prized collectors' items. Let's permit that evolution in naked lady
> pics... (Your Farber should fetch a mint.)
>
> Thanks for listening...
>
> Judy
>
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