Re: I'll see that bet, and raise you (Was: UV Article)

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From: Jeff Foster (jfoster@uclink.berkeley.edu)
Date: 12/11/01-01:38:54 PM Z


-smile-
ah, hmm, well.....

she knows the answer, right. I say under 1.5" it matter, after that
not much....

I'll just have to print and see ....

Sandy King wrote:

> Jeff,
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> I missed something in your message. Are you betting for or against Judy?
> Please clarify. Inquiring minds want to know.
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> Sandy King
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>> Okay-deal me in: Given (1) the relationship of brightness to distance;
>> and
>> given (2) the diameter of fluorescent tubes (other than the late "thin"
>> varieties, fashionable for kitchen cabinet applications, but not widely
>> respected for UV radiation); it would seem to reason that a print in
>> direct
>> contact with the glass of a given set of tubes on 1/4" or greater centers
>> would experience (not consciously, of course) as equal a distribution of
>> light as one at 3" distance-or one at 30", for that matter; or 30
>> yards-from
>> the light source. The difference would be in intensity, not in
>> distribution
>> of radiance. (Note, also, that the hypothetical 1/4" centers are less
>> than
>> possible under the conditions of (2) above, confirming the premise.)
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>> Hence, no banding1
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>> N'est pas?
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>> <<John dramatically throws down a cool million Monopoly Dollars>>
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>> Has anyone out there actually experienced banding or stripping from UV
>> tubes?
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>> If so, Judy will gladly cover my bet-while l am looking for a new tanning
>> salon.
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>> (Personal aside to Sandy: please give my regards to Beth Daniels in the
>> English Dept. at Clemson, a fine Rhetorictician, and Very Clear Thinker.
>> She knows much about light and is a de-light-full human being.)
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>> Regards to all,
>> John
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>> www.photogecko.com
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>> 1- a term better suited to my Epson 3000 printer, but I won't quibble.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:56 PM
>> To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
>> Subject: Re: UV Article
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>> Judy Seigel wrote:
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>>>
>>> > I think this is a legitimate concern. If you are using the two-tube
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>>>> holders with 3/4" spacing between the tubes there is some point in
>>>> bringing the tubes closer to the contact frame where you are going to
>>>> get so close that banding (or stripping) will take place. I will bet,
>>>> for example, that if you place the contact frame at 1-2" from the
>>>> tubes there would be some banding on the print.
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>>> How much is that bet? I'm finishing some tests that I will show in
>>> upcoming P-F, and though, as noted, I rarely bet less than a million
>>> dollars, I'm very soft-hearted.
>>>
>>> J.
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>> I won't take your bet on this because I actually hope you are right.
>> I recently replaced my bank of 24" tubes with very close spacing
>> (about 1/4") with a larger bank of 48" tubes with 3/4" spacing and
>> have assumed up to now that it would be necessary to use the new bank
>> farther from the exposing plane than the old bank, which I was using
>> at about 2". If I can actually use the new bank at the same distance
>> as the old one, without banding, so much the better.
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>> Sandy King
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Jeff Foster - SDA UNIX
UC Berkeley CA


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