From: F. Wentzel (fotochemiker@yahoo.de)
Date: 09/14/01-03:46:50 AM Z
This has gotten out of hand and personal. Please take
that aspect of it off list. And lets learn tolerance
and get along.
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Personally, I think the original post is about America
and not about Britian. It's purpose was to give
strength, pride and honor to a country now in
mourning. And to point out a certain amouunt of truth.
The thought of offending the British was certainly not
at the top of the list of reasons it was posted! I
belive the posting was made in the sprit of compassion
and empathy and did not set as its goal, a discussion
of the many bonds between those two countries.
I do belive the sentiment has a historical basis and
describes accurately some aspects of America and it's
behaviour in the aftermath of wars won. In Korea, I
have had total strangers tell me of how kind America
was in helping their country particulary after the
war...
I got the same story from the Japanese...America does
have a documented history of being especially helpful
to its enemys after war has ended.
I am sure there are many nations around the world who
have helped others, Britan included. I am sure, also
that Britan will be called upon and will stand by
America's side in this new World War against Terrorism
which is unfolding at this very moment.
Like was said earlier,
It could have been any one of us.
It could have been any one of us.
It could have been any one of us.
It was indeed.... every one of us!
Fritz
--- shaun bear <shaun_bear@hotmail.com> schrieb: >
This is the first time I have replied to this list.
> I don't find this
> sentiment noble at all. As a British citizen I am
> offended by this sentiment
> suggested in this mail. It demonstrates a base
> xenophobia that tradegies
> such as this always inspire. Great Britain has been
> a loyal staunch ally to
> the USA in every conflict and crisis that the US has
> faced and to not
> recognize this fact is an insult to all british
> people. In reference to WW2
> do you honestly believe that US sacrifice was any
> greater or more noble than
> that of GB. My sympathies and prayers are with all
> victims of this horror.
> God bless america and the rest of the free world
> were ever it may be found.
>
>
> >From: Thor Bols <thorbols@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> >To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> >Subject: Re: Editorial broadcast from Toronto
> >Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:25:28 +0700
> >
> >Noble sentiments, indeed. But it might be useful
> to note that Mr. Sinclair
> >made these statements in 1973.
> >
> >
> >>From: Nick Makris <nick@mcn.org>
> >>Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> >>To: Alt Photo <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
> >>Subject: Editorial broadcast from Toronto
> >>Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:10:35 -0700
> >>
> >>Received the following and just feel that it is
> worthy of review.
> >>Actually received it twice this morning.
> >>
> >>America: The Good Neighbor.
> >>Widespread but only partial news coverage was
> given recently to a
> >>remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by
> Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian
> >>television commentator. What follows is the full
> text of his trenchant
> >>remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
> >>
> >>"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for
> the Americans as the most
> >>generous and possibly the least appreciated people
> on all the earth.
> >>
> >>Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain
> and Italy were lifted out
> >>of the debris of war by the Americans who poured
> in billions of dollars
> >>and
> >>forgave other billions in debts. None of these
> countries is today paying
> >>even the interest on its remaining debts to the
> United States.
> >>
> >>When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
> it was the Americans who
> >>propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted
> and swindled on the
> >>streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
> >>
> >>When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
> United States that hurries
> >>in to help. This spring, 59 American communities
> were flattened by
> >>tornadoes. Nobody helped.
> >>
> >>The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
> billions of dollars into
> >>discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those
> countries are writing about
> >>the decadent, warmongering Americans.
> >>
> >>I'd like to see just one of those countries that
> is gloating over the
> >>erosion of the United States dollar build its own
> airplane. Does any other
> >>country in the world have a plane to equal the
> Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
> >>Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why
> don't they fly them?
> >>Why
> >>do all the International lines except Russia fly
> American Planes?
> >>
> >>Why does no other land on earth even consider
> putting a man or woman on
> >>the
> >>moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you
> get radios. You talk
> >>about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.
> You talk about American
> >>technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not
> once, but several times
> >>and safely home again.
> >>
> >>You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
> theirs right in the store
> >>window for everybody to look at. Even their
> draft-dodgers are not pursued
> >>and hounded. They are here on our streets, and
> most of them, unless they
> >>are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American
> dollars from ma and pa at
> >>home to spend here.
> >>
> >>When the railways of France, Germany and India
> were breaking down through
> >>age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When
> the Pennsylvania Railroad
> >>and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned
> them an old caboose.
> >>Both are still broke.
> >>
> >>I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
> to the help of other
> >>people in trouble. Can you name me even one time
> when someone else raced
> >>to
> >>the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
> outside help even during
> >>the San Francisco earthquake.
> >>
> >>Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
> Canadian who is damned
> >>tired
> >>of hearing them get kicked around. They will come
> out of this thing with
> >>their flag high. And when they do, they are
> entitled to thumb their nose
> >>at
> >>the lands that are gloating over their present
> troubles. I hope Canada is
> >>not one of those."
> >>
> >>Stand proud, America!
> >>
> >>
> >>--------------------------------------------
> >>x;-)>=
> >>
> >>galen@diamondjim.Com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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