From: Steve Bell (veracity000@earthlink.net)
Date: 08/12/02-10:42:40 PM Z
Leslie,
I would certainly agree with your idea that torture is not art. but i
didn't see any torture on this site. it seemed all of the animals were
already dead. Now, don't get me wrong, i'm quite a proponent of animal
rights (i've been vegan since i was 15, for example. also did a lot of work
with animal rights groups in my area), but i didn't see much to get upset
about. i mean, i do think it wrong to use animals for our benefit in any
way, really, unless it's some kind of symbiotic relationship. and i didn't
dissect worms in school. but i can honestly say i wasn't outraged by these
photos. i tought them somewhat unappealing, as i did the worms in school.
but i certainly wasn't outraged. then again, i didn't look at every
picture, so i may be wrong, maybe there was awful torture involved.
On your latest post, as read below, to be honest anarchy is not
non-existence. nor is it chaos. it's a society structured on non
hierarchical organizing. it has often been referred to as the extreme left
of socialism. haha, sorry, i mean, i knew what you meant, and i'm sure
everyone on the list will tell me to stop politicizing and refer to the
real issue, but i thought i'd interject.
anyway, could you please identify for me the torture that you are talking
about, so i can be equally outraged if there is cause to be.
regards,
Steve
> [Original Message]
> From: <LAShively@aol.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Date: 8/12/2002 11:45:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Sicko humor as art?
>
> <<I appreciate your opinion, to each there own. Personally I believe the
art
> is
> also in the process, not just the vision.>>
>
> Mike,
>
> So the process of torture is art? Some do believe in physical pain....and
if
> life was really "to each his own" than would not society crumble into
> anarchy? Is anarchy not the secret wish of every artist? But would
life/art
> be possible in non-existance, i.e. anarchy?
>
> Leslie
>
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--- Steve Bell
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--- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be
achieved within the capitalist structure, is
an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort,
deceive those whom it oppresses...So
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optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly
hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of
youthful frustration, has been ignored
and softened. --Michael Lydon
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