From: Stan Klimek (stan@stanklimek.com)
Date: 12/11/02-08:30:03 PM Z
Marco, Is it a stretch to call "computer hacking terrorism, and to
imagine hackers might be targets of the new Homeland Security
(re-spelled) Dept. And - "I'll take my chances w/ the government".
I'll take the old world.
Marco Milazzo wrote:
> Stan,
>
> Before you start spreading the word about this alleged atrocity,
> please consider the source of the story.
>
> "2600" is a magazine for computer hackers -- the people who bedevil
> us everyday by making us run antivirus and firewall software on our
> computers so that THEY -- not the government -- won't be able to steal
> our identities, our inancial information, our passwords, etc. Those
> are the folks who wrote this story.
>
> It's not a stretch to call computer hacking "terrorism," and to
> imagine that hackers might be targets of the new Homeland Secirity Dept.
>
> Has any REAL newspaper or news outlet verified this story? If not,
> please don't spread this misinformation. If it comes to a choice
> between hackers and the government, I'll take my chances with the
> government.
>
> Marco
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stan Klimek <mailto:stan@stanklimek.com>
> To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> <mailto:alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: OT Photographer Arrested For Taking Pics Near Cheney
> Hotel
>
> Thank you for posting this, very scary. I'm going to try and keep
> it alive by forwarding it to people I know.
>
> Best - Stan
>
> ARTHURWG@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Subject:
>> [Rollei-user] OT Photographer Arrested For Taking Pics Near
>> Cheney Hotel
>> From:
>> Dale Dickerson <vze2g2z8@verizon.net>
>> Date:
>> Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:47:34 -0500
>> To:
>> Rollei-user <rollei-user@beststuff.com>, Kiev88@yahoogroups.com,
>> MF3D.Forum@lists.unh.edu, photo-3d@yahoogroups.com,
>> rolleiflex@yahoogroups.com, rollei@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us,
>> russiancamera-user@beststuff.com, Zenitcamera@yahoogroups.com,
>> ZICG@yahoogroups.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Photographer Arrested For
>>>> Taking Pics Near Cheney Hotel
>>>> 2600 News
>>>> 12-5-2
>>>
>>
>> An amateur photographer named Mike Maginnis was arrested on
>> Tuesday in his
>> home city of Denver - for simply taking pictures of buildings in
>> an area
>> where Vice President Cheney was residing. Maginnis told his story on
>> Wednesday's edition of Off The Hook. Maginnis's morning commute
>> took him
>> past the Adams Mark Hotel on Court Place. Maginnis, who says he
>> always
>> carried his camera wherever he went, snapped about 30 pictures of
>> the hotel
>> and the surrounding area - which included Denver police, Army
>> rangers, and
>> rooftop snipers. Maginnis, who works in information technology,
>> frequently
>> photographs such subjects as corporate buildings and communications
>> equipment. The following is Maginnis's account of what
>> transpired: As he
>> was putting his camera away, Maginnis found himself confronted by
>> a Denver
>> police officer who demanded that he hand over his film and
>> camera. When he
>> refused to give up his Nikon F2, the officer pushed him to the
>> ground and
>> arrested him. After being brought to the District 1 police station on
>> Decatur Street, Maginnis was made to wait alone in an
>> interrogation room.
>> Two hours later, a Secret Service agent arrived, who identified
>> himself as
>> Special Agent "Willse." The agent told Maginnis that his "suspicious
>> activities" made him a threat to national security, and that he
>> would be
>> charged as a terrorist under the USA-PATRIOT act. The Secret
>> Service agent
>> tried to make Maginnis admit that he was taking the photographs
>> to analyze
>> weaknesses in the Vice President's security entourage and "cause
>> terror and
>> mayhem." When Maginnis refused to admit to being any sort of
>> terrorist, the
>> Secret Service agent called him a "raghead collaborator" and a
>> "dirty pinko
>> faggot." After approximately an hour of interrogation, Maginnis
>> was allowed
>> to make a telephone call. Rather than contacting a lawyer, he
>> called the
>> Denver Post and asked for the news desk. This was immediately
>> overheard by
>> the desk sergeant, who hung up the phone and placed Maginnis in a
>> holding
>> cell. Three hours later, Maginnis was finally released, but with no
>> explanation. He received no copy of an arrest report, and no
>> receipt for
>> his confiscated possessions. He was told that he would probably
>> not get his
>> camera back, as it was being held as evidence. Maginnis's lawyer
>> contacted
>> the Denver Police Department for an explanation of the day's
>> events, but
>> the police denied ever having Maginnis - or anyone matching his
>> description
>> - in custody. At press time, the Denver PD's Press Information
>> Office did
>> not return telephone messages left by 2600. The new police powers
>> introduced by the USA-PATRIOT act, in the name of fighting
>> terrorism, have
>> been frightening in their apparent potential for abuse. Mike
>> Maginnis's
>> experience on Tuesday is a poignant example of how this abuse is
>> beginning
>> to occur. It suggests that a wide range of activities which might be
>> considered "suspicious" could be suddenly labeled a prelude to
>> terrorism,
>> and be grounds for arrest. We will continue to post updates to
>> this story
>> as we learn them.
>>
>> Off the Hook's Editorial Note (excerpted):
>> Those who believe such an event cannot happen in our country have
>> simply not
>> been paying attention to what's been going on. It seems a foregone
>> conclusion that the United States is heading in a direction of
>> increased
>> civil rights abuses.
>>
>> Now let's turn the tables and examine the other side. We
>> contacted both the
>> Denver Police and the Secret Service to find out if the story was
>> true. They
>> both took our information and neither of them ever got back to
>> us. Their
>> silence has been deafening and it's perhaps the most significant
>> statement
>> they could have made.
>>
>> We realize that there will still be people who remain
>> unconvinced. And so we
>> hereby invite them to help us get to the bottom of this by
>> proving us wrong:
>> The Vice President is always staying somewhere and one day he's
>> certain to
>> stay somewhere near you. When that happens, simply go down to the
>> hotel he's
>> staying at and take as many pictures as you can. Be sure to
>> photograph the
>> snipers and the military guard as well. When we receive pictures
>> proving
>> that we do indeed have the right to take photos of public places
>> while
>> standing in a public place, we will be more than happy to make
>> that known.
>> We will also welcome and make public any correspondence from
>> appropriate law
>> enforcement agencies who wish to say for the record that such
>> freedoms will
>> not be challenged in the future.
>>
>>
>> http://www.2600.com/news/display/display.shtml?id=1441
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