Re: The lives they lived

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From: pete (temperaprint@blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: 12/31/02-12:04:54 PM Z


Pete

> Judy,
>
>> The front page had no woman's byline.
>>
>> So what if a woman, Condi, or HP or other, appears on occasion? Today's
>> first section had between 30 & 40 pictures of men -- not counting the
>> group shots.
>
> Let's go back to your other post about art forum (which I don't have any
> more--sorry). Why do you think women are under-represented in their survey
> of 2002? (I haven't looked at this issue yet so I don't really know the
> article you are talking about.) Does this reflect an actual
> under-representation of women in the arts? Or Art Forum's failure to
> recognize the achievement of women in the arts? Or the fact, maybe, that
> there are a lot of women making art, but relatively few who achieve the kind
> of notoriety that men do, at least in the eyes of the editors of Art Forum?
>
> Thirty years ago there may have been actual discrimination against women in
> the arts, and there may have been institutional barriers to women then. But
> if such things still exist, they are hard to detect. It seems to me that in
> academia especially, and in the larger art world too, being a woman can be a
> real advantage, in that art departments are seeking women for faculty
> positions. If there is a choice between two candidates who are equally
> qualified, a man and a woman, most departments nowadays will choose the
> woman. I know this happened at my former university.
>
> So why this apparent lingering scarcity of women of high achievement in the
> arts? I think it may have to do with the fact that even when institutional
> barriers to achievement are lifted, women still have their own biology to
> deal with: childbearing for women has to happen between the ages of about
> 20 and 40, which are also the years where most people of high achievement
> are building their careers. I think in my next lifetime I might choose to
> be childless. I'm glad I had a child this time, and I'm glad I put all the
> time into it that I did, and the results were great; but if I really wanted
> to be a very successful, recognized artist, I would have to let that go. I
> think this may be true for men too, since nowadays fathers are expected to
> be very involved with the raising of their children.
>
> --shannon

Shannon,

Congratulations on a very well balanced reply on omen perhaps for the new
year

Pete


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