speaking of gold & gold toner

[Judy Seigel <jseigel@panix.com>]

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Jonathan Bailey wrote:
> Check out the back pages of Post Factory! Gold chloride can be had for very
> reasonable money - much less than $10/gram.... like they say in NYC - "never
> pay retail!!"

Actually, a friend of mine WHO LIVES IN NYC paid City Chemical $110 a
gram, the idiot...(But City Chemical moved to Connecticut, so maybe that
explains it ?)

Anyway, I can only assume that was gold melted down from the Taj Mahal by
vestal virgins. Of course he has been re-educated. I forget which of the
sources in P-F's Sources & Services (Section 11 "Precious Metals") he
switched to, maybe Goldsmith, 847-869-7800. Englehard is also very cheap,
but apparently charges $40 for delivery.

However, speaking of gold toner, perhaps someone knows the answer to this
one: Janet Neuhauser wrote (P-F #7) about toning her silver gelatin prints
with Liam Lawless's sepia/ gold combo for beautiful color, split tone,
etc. etc. She found that the formula she used kept very well from session
to session. My question is (Richard???  Liam???) would this formula also
work with POP? If so, why use one that doesn't??

Here's the gold toner from Liam via Janet:

distilled/deonized water -- 750 ml
thiourea  3 g
citric acid  1 g
gold chloride  .5 g
water to 1000 ml

Dissolve in order given. Short fix after toning. Wash well

There's also an optional PH buffer (12 g trisodium citrate) which
Janet omitted.

PS. As old timers on the list may recall, Liam makes his own gold toner.
So you might want to save your old (dental) crowns... (Crowns of recent
years only use plastic, but then gold is pretty cheap these days anyway.)

cheers,

Judy