From: Judy Seigel (jseigel@panix.com)
Date: 08/02/03-01:02:56 AM Z
Thanks for that info charlie... You mean you used Createx with casein
printing? I know they're OK for carbon printing, since I sent mine on to
a carbon printer... I've been intending to try casein, but there are so
many other formulas calling, calling...
J.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 CCBaggett@aol.com wrote:
> Judy/Keith,
> I received the new Daniel Smith catalog yesterday and here is what
> they say about Dr. Martin's:'....good lightfastness and are great for fine art
> applications.'
> 'These pigmented watercolors are not to be confused with Dr. Martin's
> dye-based Radiant Watercolors, which are not lightfast.' As stated previously testing
> is in order. I have not used these but have used Createx (burnt sienna,
> ultramarine blue and carbon black) with casein and no staining problems.
> Cheers,
> Charlie
>
>
> In a message dated 7/31/2003 12:49:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jseigel@panix.com writes:
>
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Keith Gerling wrote:
> >
> > >No, I haven't tested them. Thanks for that info. I've been dumping that
> > >stuff willy-nilly into all kinds of batches. Good thing I haven't really
> > >liked any of the prints, huh? :-)
> > >
> > >Keith
> >
> > Actually, it's my understanding that in a MIX a fugitive color may be less
> > so. That is, I read in the Artists Equity newsletter a while back that an
> > EARTH COLOR, such as lamp black, will give some protection to colors that
> > would otherwise fade in UV light.
> >
> > Sometime when I'm looking for something else I'll come across that item
> > (here from memory) &will share...
> >
> > I never heard of Mixol, but I assume the Createx has dispersal agents...
> > Once I found it didn't clear I abandoned it. Another studio in the
> > East Village, name of Guerra (if memory serves), does a similar pigment in
> > wet mix which also does not clear. They told me it had a dispersal agent
> > --- a damn shame, because a cheap source of intense &archival color would
> > be sooooooo convenient.
> >
> > My e-email queue is in a state of near-terminal hypertrophy, and I doubt
> > I'll get it sorted out in this lifetime. But I recall that someone asked
> > what KIND of dispersal agent I'd found doesn't work. He named 3 species,
> > distinctions I was totally unaware of. But I can say that the "Universal
> > Dispersant" that Golden paints gave me to try is an Octylphenoxy
> > polyethoxl ethanol, as written by hand of the CEO Mr. Golden on the label.
> > Does that answer any questions? It didn't work horribly.
> >
> > Actually I doubt it's so much the particular dispersal agent type as the
> > fact of dispersal-ism.... sending the pigment so thoroughly into the paper
> > fibers it won't come out.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >PS. Haven't tested Mixol or Createx, either. Any word on those?
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Judy Seigel [mailto:jseigel@panix.com]
> > >Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:00 PM
> > >To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> > >Cc: alt-photo-process-error@sask.usask.ca
> > >Subject: RE: Gum Pigments
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>In addition to watercolor pigments, I use dry pigments, Dr. Martin's
> > >>Concentrated Watercolor, Createx airbrush colors, Sumi ink, and Mixol
> > >>pigments. All work well.
> > >
> > >Keith, have you tested the Dr. martin's for fading? I know their dyes are
> > >extremely fugitive -- the watercolors possibly less so, but you might want
> > >to check.
> > >
> > >J
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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