jeffbuck@swcp.com
Date: 01/08/03-11:53:54 AM Z
Where did the term "Outsider Art" or "Artists" come from? Or the analysis?
It feels like supposed "Insiders" trying to domesticate for Art History
purposes things or people that are or were inherently undomesticated. Wild
flower can't be let be. Has to be part of the Grand Garden. -jb
Jack Brubaker <jack@jackbrubaker.com> said:
> This is sort of an asside to the issue of "outsider"
>
> One of the features common to the several introductory level photo classes I
> have been near over the years is that there was in each one or two students
> who were involved in a very personal self-examination that boardered on
> painfull and functioned as an undirected therapy for them. Photography was a
> non-verbal way of expressing their fears, concerns, questions, what-ever
> that didn't require them to learn to draw, mix paint, ar any of the other
> time consuming skills associated with "fine art". As such it was an
> accessable form of self expression that they used for a while and then went
> away. Their instructors were hestitant to confront them with the content of
> their imagry since most showed resistance to acklnowledging or missinturpted
> the sometimes blatent imagry of their work. This is not "outsider" or
> "folk" as such but is an area of photography that comes close. It is worth
> remembering for most people photography is not technical or difficult. They
> beleave the Kodak ideal. So the image of the self taught, or un-taught,
> artist or outsider may well exist within photography and photography may in
> fact be a magnet to those having an eposodic need to express themselves.
> Just think of all the home computers full of low res. digital images out
> there. They aren't all pictures of the grandkids.
>
> Jack Brubaker
>
> > From: Judy Seigel <jseigel@panix.com>
> > Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> > Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 18:13:15 -0500 (EST)
> > To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> > Subject: Re: outsider art
> >
> > Disfarmer cannot be an "outsider" photographer because he was working,
> > however brilliantly, in a given tradition: portrait studio.
> >
> > Nor does "common folk" define outsider art, because most common folk,
> > Sunday painters, are doing conventional modes -- however amateurishly.
> >
> > j.
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Shannon Stoney wrote:
> >
> >> Can photographers be Outsider ARtists or folk artists? It would seem
> >> strange to single out self-taught photographers since almost all
> >> photographers are self-taught. It seems to me that photography may be
the
> >> Mother of All Folk Arts, since it is the one practised the most by the
> >> common folk.
> >>
> >> --shannon
> >>
>
>
--
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : 02/21/03-10:44:16 AM Z CST