RE: coating albumen, a different method

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From: Vincent Dobson (manitec@bellsouth.net)
Date: 01/21/03-12:39:50 PM Z


Pardon my ignorance. What do you do - fill it like a hot water bag and pour
out the excess? I guess the paper would be oversized sufficiently to cut
the sealed portions off after coating. Fill, pour off excess then cut edges
off - right?

thanks,

Vince Dobson
Visions In Nature
www.VisionsInNature.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Nelson [mailto:emanmb@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 12:59 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: coating albumen, a different method

I wouldn't bother w/brush coating BUT it might give a
desired effect or the seredipity of that method might
be amusing/pleasant.

ANOTHER METHOD FOR COATING ALBUMEN
This involves a dry mount press, a VERTICAL tank for
the albumen if you can find/make one and dry mount
tissue.
Cut dry mount tissue into thin strips.
place these along the 4 edges of two sheets of paper
to be coated that are back to back. You want to make
a seal so no albumen or silver nitrate gets in between
the sheets.
In the dry mount press, seal the 2 sheets together.
Voila, you can coat 2 sheets at a time! Reseal as
needed with the press. I guess an iron could work as
well since you are only sealing the edges but a press
helps keep the paper nice & flat. The vertical tank
allows for less solution but I have done this in
tradtional trays as well.
I have 11x14 albumen paper made this way still sealed
and ready to go from years ago. Hanging and drying
are done in traditional manner.

Eric Nelson

--- "Breukel, C. (HKG)" <C.Breukel@lumc.nl> wrote:
> Judy,
>
> I guess I am repeating something you (and your
> friend) already know; but
> coating albumen is traditionally/usually done by
> floating the paper on the
> albumen/salt solution, and is sensitised the same
> way with SilverNitrate.
> AFAIK brushing is much harder to do (imposible in my
> hands, though I tried
> it once or twice). Coating by floating isn't tto
> hard, but does require
> relative large volumes.
>
> best,
>
> Cor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Seigel [mailto:jseigel@panix.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:44 AM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> Subject: coating albumen
>
>
>
> To the list mind, again:
>
> Friend of mine is coating albumen, and not happy
> with hake brushes, foam
> applicators and the like.It seems the hake soon gets
> scratchy & the foam,
> even the softer foam, is too stiff.
>
> I told him about the list's love of "magic brush,"
> but of course I have no
> idea how that would work for albumen. He wants to
> try it however, so I
> promised I'd ask for advice about which width would
> be best. Do you want
> as wide as possible, or are several narrower strokes
> preferable. He's
> coating mostly 8x10 at present.
>
> I recall Carl explaining that the wedge shaped tip
> on the Richeson gives
> it an edge, so to speak. But my thought was that
> wouldn't matter in
> albumen which is getting a much wetter coat. Or
> would it?
>
> I also recall Sandy King's mention of synthetic
> fabric for Blanchard
> brush. I think you said which fabric, Sandy, but in
> the info overload on
> these premises I can't locate it. Is that something
> generally available?
> Have you tried it for albumen?
>
> My thought was to try it also for, say, gum, Maybe
> it wouldn't work at all
> ("normal" blanchard brush wasn't good for gum), but
> I'm curious to try the
> improved version.
>
> TIA for advice,
>
> PS to Gord in the sunny north: Has Canada gone
> metric or what? My little
> chart doesn't even have 10 degrees C on it... tho
> that's a photo chart,
> doesn't go below 14 C, which is 58 F -- like summer
> ! We're slated to
> have "single digit" Fahrenheit temperatures tomorrow
> & rest of week.(Maybe
> metric people get better weather? I could believe
> it.)
>
> Judy

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