curzon@tegenlicht.com
Date: 10/07/03-02:28:16 AM Z
The only guy who can put me in a box (with my permission) after I'm dead would be an undertaker!!
BTW: I saw a convention two years ago where they showed "funural art". Not only artistic coffins but also
very beautiful (and appropriate) monuments to put on a grafe.
Bert from Holland
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Van: Ender100@aol.com [mailto:Ender100@aol.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 7 oktober 2003 9:19
Aan: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Onderwerp: Re: neo-Pictorialism
Kate,
Here is what is probably a very oversimplified view of the whole thing. You do what work you do based on what is in your heart, mind, and spirit to the extent your mastery of the craft and your creative ability allows you—involving the relevant subjects that fall within the range of your mobility and your camera lens.
Then, later, after you are dead, should someone notice your work, be they a critic or writer, to satisfy their need for order, they place you in a category or box with a label on it—like maybe the post-neo-pictorealist photographisterical movement. Then they go about describing all sorts of obvious symbolism in each of your images and motivations on your part at the time of clicking the shutter to include those meanings in the image so that you are proven obviously to be a post-neo-pictorealist photographisterical photographer type person.
You can call me anything you want. Just don't call me after 2:00 AM.
;)
Mark Nelson
In a message dated 10/6/03 8:58:43 PM, kateb@paradise.net.nz writes:
The only thing I've got against the tag of "neo-pictorialism" is the faint
odour of disapproval that wafts to me from "pictorialism". Being a product
of the postwar generation, when pictorialism was a no-no and we were to
stick severely to "realism", even through abstraction, neo-expressionism and
Malevich. Seems like we've finally caught on to what the painting world has
known for over a century - art is NOT about truth!!! It's about ART - and
the word artifice is rooted in the wrord ART so........is the Sistine
ceiling a lie??? Or an artifice??? Does anybody care??
And what about thoses peppers? Were they supposed to be read as
vegetables????? They may have been as sharp and real as all hell but they
were at the very least another sort of artifice in themselves.........
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