RE: Neo-Pictorialism, sally mann and Witkin (sort of)

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From: Jeff Buckels (jeffbuck@swcp.com)
Date: 10/12/03-01:25:39 PM Z


This is no good either. When Sally Mann shipped this body of work out
into the world, she undertook the risk of what would become of it and
she undertook it on behalf of her children without their consent (they
were not capable of giving a valid consent). -jb

-----Original Message-----
From: Darryl Baird [mailto:dbaird@umflint.edu]
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:14 AM
To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Neo-Pictorialism, sally mann and Witkin (sort of)

Dave,

You're disturbed by "other people's" marketing. If Sally could control
this, she would certainly, but to ad hominem(ly) dismiss, attack or
caution us against her work isn't constructive. Any additional "context"

of her work from such dubious sources as the Internet should be seen in
the light of the webmaster's intentions. After all, aren't they selling
books? Who is their audience? High minded art patrons, no doubt. How
about Photo-eye? Their catalog is roughly one third to half full of
nudes; are they disturbing?

FYI, Emmit G. had a similar problem with OUI magazine. They literally
published an image of his and wrote their own copy, about "golden
showers." Is Emmit a pervert because he photographed a female
(wife/Edith) urinating?

What we can't control is pretty difficult to defend against. BTW, do you

own any Wynn Bullock, Ed Weston, Alfred Stieglitz, Gertrude Kaisebier,
Lewis Carrol, or Julia Margaret Cameron books... all with naked children

and women (like that website link)?

If the world was understandable by just a Google search, we'd be in deep

s**t.

Darryl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave Rose wrote:

>I did a quick google search on "Sally Mann nudes" and hit upon a
plethora of
>interesting websites. Mann may or may not have intended her work to be
to
>erotic, but it certainly is being marketed that way. Check out this
>website - be forewarned, some may find it disturbing:
>http://www.erotic-art-photography.net/erotic-books.html
>
>Where do you draw the line between art photography and kiddie porn? I
don't
>own any books authored by Mann or others who are photographing naked
>children, but from what I just saw during twenty minutes of websurfing,
I'm
>disturbed by this work and how it's being marketed.
>
>Best regards,
>Dave Rose
>Big Wonderful Wyoming
>
>
>
>


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