Re: Negative Montages and Gender Politics, may be considered OT

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From: Steve Bell (sbell1@artic.edu)
Date: 09/13/03-05:31:29 PM Z


that's an interesting idea. putting the images together as print collages and
then taking a picture of them. very interesting. i will definitely experiment
with that technique. but i do like very much the idea of sewing negs together,
and making a new neg like that.

you said there are a million other ways to put them together? any ideas would
be great. i would like to stay away from digital at this point. i don't want
to spark any digidebates right now. but i'm definitely looking for an analog
answer. and of course, there is always good old testing and experimenting,
which i certainly will do. but i would like to see what other people have to
say.

i was also thinking of using sewing needles, and holding some parts together
as if i were preparing to sew that area. i was thinking some kind of glue, but
i'm not sure how archival that is. i don't want to ruin my negatives if i
really like the print i make.

thanks for the idea though, i will definitely try the print collage to 8x10
film idea.

cheers,

Steve

Quoting Nick Makris <nick@mcn.org>:

> Steve, If your goal is to produce a print/mural that looks like a collage,
> I
> would definitely stick with glossy prints, and cut and paste, and then
> rephotograph on 8X10 or whatever works. Beyond that there are a million
> ways to put them together digital and analog. Have you considered lith
> film? probably not very good for masking parts of color negs. Best, n
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Bell" <sbell1@artic.edu>
> To: "alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca"
> <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:39 PM
> Subject: Negative Montages and Gender Politics, may be considered OT
>
>
> > Hey Everyone,
> >
> > firstly i'd like to start off by apologizing for my inactivity on the
> list
> > over the past few months. i feel like this is a great community, and i've
> been
> > neglecting it somewhat. i'm in school in chicago now, and i am presently
> in a
> > color photo class, so my time for alt processes has been minimal.
> >
> > so here's my question:
> >
> > i'm presently working on a photo project that is based on gender
> politics.
> > i.e.- the idea that gender does not exist, or that it doesn't exist in
> such
> > black and white terms as 'boy' and 'girl' or 'man' and 'woman'. that
> there
> are
> > varying degrees of the characteristics that make up these definitions. so
> what
> > i plan to do with this is shoot people in the studio and out of the
> studio,
> > shoot people basically, and then cut up the negatives (most likely 120,
> but
> > very possibly i will use 4x5). so the idea is to cut up the negatives,
> and
> > take different parts of peoples' bodies that give visual cues to gender,
> and
> > make negative montages or collages. i'm going to try to put these pieces
> of
> > negatives together to fit the size of an 8x10 piece of sheet film, and
> then
> > make mural size color prints.
> >
> > now what i planned to do was to sew the negatives together, which i will
> do
> > partially, as that is definitely a gender cue in and of itself, but i
> don't
> > want that to be my only technique for affixing the negatives to each
> other.
> > does anybody have any experience with this kind of thing? i remember
> reading
> > in the James book about a photographer who, towards the end of his
> career,
> > took the tons of negatives that he had over the years and did a similar
> thing,
> > making 8x10 contact prints of negative collages. my copy of that book is
> back
> > in baltimore, so if anyone knows who that artist is, that would be a
> helpful
> > resource.
> >
> > any ideas?
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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