Re: Oiled Digital Neg + Cyanotype = Simplest Method For A Beginne r ?!? [ HELP! :)]

From: jamesromeo ^lt;jamesromeo@mac.com>
Date: 02/13/04-11:09:34 AM Z
Message-id: <BC526EFE.14720%jamesromeo@mac.com>

  A ? please is the vellum a paper that I would buy at a good art store? I
would than cut it to fit in my printer. Is there a brand I should ask for?
Judy would you know if our 3rd ave village shop has it?
Thanks for your help
James

> Martin,
>
> I have found that the vellum's we tried at the school of TemperaPrint also
> gave soft definition which can or cannot be a good thing.It is all down to
> personal taste.
>
> Pete
>
>> Plastic as in very thin Mylar will work and protect your coated
>> paper/fabric but the resulting image will be softer which is not
>> always a bad thing either.
>> m.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pete [mailto:temperaprint@blueyonder.co.uk]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 18:39
>> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>> Subject: Re: Oiled Digital Neg + Cyanotype = Simplest Method For A
>> Beginner ?!? [ HELP! :)]
>>
>>
>> James,
>>
>> I have found in the past that liquid paraffin oil which in the US is called
>> mineral oil. Works very well it does not go rancid or dry out overtime ,also
>> I think Kate's suggestion of using a clear-thin plastic cover/bag is a good
>> idea.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>> What is the best type of paraffin to use ??? do you have to heat it to oil
>>> the print.??
>>> I have used linseed oil got a few good brown prints but the linseed neg
>> does
>>> not keep well.
>>> Thanks
>>> James
>>>
>>> Hi Paresh, I'm not sure of where you'd find info on oiling paper negatives
>>> apart from here. It's an easy process. I use an inkjet printer and have
>> now
>>> got this working well....it's just a matter of adjusting your negative to
>>> the process. Just ask on the list for more info on cyan, I'm not sure but
>> I
>>> think a slightly more contrasty neg (than for conventional silver) suits
>>> cyan better.
>>>
>>> Printing: I've corrected where necessary.....
>>>
>>> 1. Choose my image...
>>>
>>> 2. Change its size to desirable output[say 8'x10' @ 300 dpi]...
>>>
>>> now.....tweak the contrast using curves if necessary.......others know
>> more
>>> about this than I do.
>>>
>>> 3. Turn-it to monochrome [black monochrome OR B/W]...
>>>
>>> 4. Invert it [neg effect]...
>>>
>>> 5. Print as colour....gives more ink coverage - 3 colours rather
>> than
>>> just black
>>>
>>> 6. Oil the print [which is the best oil to do this ?]...paraffin oil
>>> is best but any cooking oil will do, just has a tendency to go rancid with
>>> age
>>>
>>> 7. Insert it in a clear-thin plastic cover/bag...only if you want
>> to!
>>>
>>> 8. Make contact-print...
>>>
>>> Voila!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For good info on cyanotypes, go to www.cyanotypes.com
>>> <http://www.cyanotypes.com> which has the instructions...also available
>>> there are instructions for many more alt. processes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy printing!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kate
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From:
>>> To: 'alt process list' <mailto:alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:57 AM
>>> Subject: Oiled Digital Neg + Cyanotype = Simplest Method For A Beginner
>> ?!?
>>> [ HELP! :)]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am new to this list [as you all must already know :)]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also I am a novice in Alternative Photography [actually, not even a novice
>> -
>>> yet to start!]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am thinking of starting-off with a cyanotype [with my limited knowledge
>>> from online articles etc.]...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this what you all would suggest? I have no background in chemistry...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a simpler/less complex method to begin-with?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you point me to a good website where I can find highly detailed
>>> procedure to help me make my first & "successful" print? :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, I can't afford large-format negs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was thinking of making digital negs from commercial graphic houses.
>>>
>>> [that would cost me INR 0.75 per sq. inch... you know, the ones used for
>>> plate-making!]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, reading the digital-neg process of oiling on the list, I thought
>> I
>>> would try that out as my first.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have an HP Deskjet inkjet printer...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What do I do?:
>>>
>>> 1. Choose my image...
>>>
>>> 2. Change its size to desirable output[say 8'x10' @ 300 dpi]...
>>>
>>> 3. Turn-it to monochrome [black monochrome OR B/W]...
>>>
>>> 4. Invert it [neg effect]...
>>>
>>> 5. Print as Black Only...
>>>
>>> 6. Oil the print [which is the best oil to do this ?]...
>>>
>>> 7. Insert it in a clear-thin plastic cover/bag...
>>>
>>> 8. Make contact-print...
>>>
>>> Voila!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where can I get best info on making oiled-digital-negs on an inkjet [what
>>> paper, what oil, what resolution, etc.]?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please HELP all you can...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanking you,
>>>
>>> With Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paresh Pandit
>>>
>>> Mumbai, IN.
>>>
>>> February 11, 2004
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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