Re: hot and cold press papers

That's weird; it is so obvious I can't believe you don't notice it...I think
it's sized with gelatin, and that is the smell...an animal product; but
maybe could it be that it goes "bad"??
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kate Mahoney" <kateb@paradise.net.nz>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: hot and cold press papers

> This amazes me - I use Arches Aquarelle as the paper of choice, have a
very
> sebsitive nose and have never ever noticed a bad smell.....?????What
> gives???
> Kate
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Laven" <wmlaven@platinotype.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:29 AM
> Subject: Re: hot and cold press papers
>
>
> > I once used Aquarelle for Pt/Pd and got a great image, but couldn't
> > stand the smell either. I thought I had a rotten (sic) batch and
> > didn't try it again because I preferred the Arches Platine.
> >
> > What's the smell from?
> >
> >
> > >Hi all,
> > > I just wanted to share my experiences with different papers, for
> what
> > >it is worth.
> > > I had previously posted on the sinking of aquarelle to the bottom
> of
> > >the tub when presoaking and shrinking my paper. It also held in
moisture
> the
> > >longest, so it took FOREVER to dry, unlike Uno and Artistico and
Magnano.
> > >It also had clear spots of uneven sizing, and some I soaked had dark
> areas
> > >of what looked like stain. I thought for sure the aquarelle was going
to
> be
> > >a "never order again" paper.
> > > However, in side by side comparisons, having never worked before
on
> > >cold pressed papers and gum printing (before I only used Rives BFK
which
> has
> > >some slight surface texture but is not cold pressed) I am amazed at how
> much
> > >detail you can get. For some reason, I thought the bumps in cold
pressed
> > >papers would create a softer image, and not so. In fact, there is more
> > >depth to the image, but not less detail. I was using cold and hot in
Uno,
> > >Artistico, Aquarelle. Magano is bumpy, too.
> > > The aquarelle no longer sank to the bottom once sized with a
> hardened
> > >gelatin layer.
> > > The one thing I found was that I had a much easier time getting
an
> even
> > >coating with no streaks with the cold pressed papers. This reminds me
of
> > >Charles Ryberg and one other person on the list who was having
difficulty
> > >streaking. Try cold pressed paper. Once I was past the first layer,
the
> > >hot pressed, smooth papers would streak more. The first layer never
did,
> > >tho, so somehow the buildup of hardened gum contributed to the
streaking.
> > > Speaking of which, I was using the roller method on some, but
could
> > >only get an even layer on the first layer but not thereafter. I think
I
> > >need to make my gum solution thinner to use that method. Otherwise, I
> always
> > >use a 3" hake brush.
> > > I'm trying to decide on a paper to stick with, and contrary to
what
> I
> > >was expecting, cold press may be it. Probably not aquarelle, as it
does,
> as
> > >Katharine says, smell bad. I liken it to wet dog. Plus the other
> problems
> > >with it and uneven sizing etc. But it sure looks nice in a print...
> > >Chris
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Received on Wed Mar 31 20:17:26 2004