RE: adam needs a printer

I appreciate your comments on the high Dmax with black inks and the 2220. I'
ll check the
Archive in regard to the 1160 - I know it was quite popular for use with the
inks developed by Cone in Topsham Vermont (Piezography). In any event, I
will try the 1160 with the Portrico OHP material and Epson black ink for
that printer. They are different inks than Cone used for prints but I'll
check the archive as you suggest. Thanks Joachim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:27 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: RE: adam needs a printer

I have used black only inks with the Epson 2000P, the C84 and the 2200. They
all worked fine, but the black inks produce so much contrast (over about log
3.30 with all three of these printers) and I had to use a very steep curve
to adjust. This is not ideal.

The R1800 has a maximum contrast of about 2.4 with the the black ink, which
makes it close to ideal for very long scale processes like straight
palladium, salted paper, VDB, etc. It would be a good printer to mix black
and colored inks, as Clay suggests in another post. But you still have the
problem of a very slow drying pigmented ink set that is subject to pizza
wheels. But the tones are remarkably smooth, much smoother than the Epson
2200. Not an issue for printing on art and drawing papers but it might be
for printing on smooth surface silver papers.

Sorry, but I don't have any experience with the Epson 1160. But there has
been a lot of discussion of it here in the past so you might do a search in
the archives.

Sandy

You are obviously experienced with the Epson 2200 for Pictorico OHP
dig-negatives for alt-processes. I have had only mediocre (poor) results
with using color pigments as recommended by Dan Burkholder, although he gets
fine results - and will now try black inks - have you had success with
black inks? Any experience with the Epson 1160 which uses dye inks but for
black should be good. That printer is no longer preferred for color work.
While not a major consideration it is faster than the 2200. I plan to try
both unless I am dissuaded by your adverse experiences, if any. Thank you
for your input. Joachim
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 7:02 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: Re: adam needs a printer
The R1800 will print on Pictorico OHP but the pigmented inks dry very slow
so it is iffy at best with other OHP materials such as Crystal Clear. I
tried it and it caused pizza wheel marks on this OHP, when the 2200 does not
(at least for me).

Also, the R1800 can only be used to print in black ink. The color inks do
not have enough density for UV processes.

Your best choices at present are the Epson 1280 (most economical) or 2200
(available for a lot less than a few months ago) in older technology, or the
Epson 2400 for the latest.

Sandy

Ok, the time has come gang. I'mma get a printer.
I wanna be able to print Color B&W and Negs atleast as big as 13x19

So I was looking for some recommendations.

I was looking and saw Epson Stylus Photo R1800.

Prints up to 13x44. It doesn't mention being able to print on Transparency.
So I was wondering if anyone has any experience with these inks and that
type of material.

Please shoot me some help, K?
Sorry I haven't paid attention to the 5,000 emails about this already.
I'm a bad boy and understand I was wrong for not being better.

Cheers!
Adam.
Received on Mon Sep 12 20:46:31 2005