Re: Off-Topic, New Orleans Images

Bob Kiss wrote:
"Someone on the list said that we should give the spirits from Dachau the
choice between the Nazis and Republicans in reply to someone else's e-mail.
I don't think the first e-mail said Republicans...I think he was referring
to the current administration and, in light of current poles, it appears
that many Republicans do not agree with its policies. "
                               
Bob, you read that exactly right; thank you for you clarity.

So that Tom Ferguson can educate himself a little, I've included
a few helpful links. I thought it might be of interest to others as well.

Here is a little homework for those with an interest in historical accuracy:

First, have a look at the definition of the word that I used in my comment:
http://tinyurl.com/jazvs

Second, read the statement of principles of the "boys club" that backs
the present administration and read at the bottom of the page the list
naming some of PNAC's members.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

Third, simply google "Prescott Bush Nazi" or click on a couple of
helpful links.

http://tinyurl.com/5ropr

http://tinyurl.com/ukdq

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

Oh... and for extra credit: Get a copy of the following title and read it.
http://tinyurl.com/jpkes

all the best,

Phillip

Jack Fulton wrote:
> *Ahhh, men . . . and, women.*
> *Right on Bob
> *
> On April2006, at 1:41 PM, BOB KISS wrote:
>
>> DEAR LIST,
>> I have been following this thread since Dan's first postings. Dan,
>> behold
>> what ye hath wrought! I have been amazed, saddened, and shocked by
>> some of
>> the statements that have been posted. I know obscenities in 6
>> languages so
>> I found that entertaining but I was outraged by the sexism and raw hatred
>> displayed. My delete finger has been VERY busy.
>> I can remain silent no more.
>> I am an American citizen living overseas. I am old enough to have
>> watched
>> the Nixon/Kennedy debates for my civics class in school. I have NEVER
>> witnessed so much divisiveness among Americans; I see and feel it more
>> intensely due to my distant and perhaps slightly more objective
>> perspective.
>> As I admit that I am a liberal I also find myself repeatedly saying,
>> "Don't
>> blame me! I voted for the other guys!" on most of my travels around the
>> Caribbean, South America, and Europe.
>> Last night I watched, for the umpteenth time, the original "TRIAL AT
>> NUREMBERG" with Spencer Tracy. What I saw as the main thrust of that
>> film
>> was that people react very poorly to fear and any powerful politician
>> knows
>> this. They are willing to give up rights and do just about anything,
>> however illegal, in order to have security or catch the "bad guys"
>> and then
>> are surprised when they can't get those rights back. The question is,
>> "What is it we are trying to preserve if we give up our rights and
>> indulge
>> in illegal acts to catch the enemy?" Sadly, they also often
>> surrender their
>> reason in favor of the obvious quick fix...the scapegoat. At the end
>> of the
>> film, Burt Lancaster's character, a judge condemned to life
>> imprisonment for
>> his crimes states, "I never knew it would come to millions and millions".
>> Spencer Tracy, who plays the chief of the tribunal who sentenced
>> Lancaster's
>> character says, "It came to that the first time you sentenced a man
>> to death
>> whom you knew to be innocent". Both good and bad things have very small
>> beginnings. Pick up every stitch.
>> I am part German. (I am also part Czech/Slovak, so you can imagine the
>> political arguments around dinner!) Germany has given us Bach,
>> Beethoven,
>> Schiller (author of original poem, "Ode to Joy"), brilliant painters,
>> philosophers...darn it, Einstein was German! So how did such an amazing
>> people fall prey to Hitler? FEAR! Fear of communism. Fear of economic
>> depression and inflation brought on partly by the horrible "war
>> reparations"
>> imposed in Versailles. FEAR! Played upon by an amazingly cunning
>> man and
>> his political associates.
>> I will say no more. The parallels are obvious.
>> Someone on the list said that we should give the spirits from Dachau the
>> choice between the Nazis and Republicans in reply to someone else's
>> e-mail.
>> I don't think the first e-mail said Republicans...I think he was
>> referring
>> to the current administration and, in light of current poles, it appears
>> that many Republicans do not agree with its policies. I want to
>> state that
>> some of the most wonderful and enlightening debates I have ever had have
>> been with my Republican friends over MANY topics. They were reasoned
>> debates with both sides bringing up many facts, FACTS (repeated for
>> emphasis) to support their politics. Both sides have left the evening's
>> discussions having learned something and often, at the same time, feeling
>> more confident about their own position. What I have a hard time
>> accepting
>> is demagoguery and fear mongering...politics that plays on fear, emotion,
>> and, sadly, religious differences. The issue is that NO ONE GROUP should
>> paint ANY OTHER GROUP with a wide brush. Of all curious people to quote,
>> Chris Rock said, "The reason the world is so *&%ed up is because so many
>> people come from their Democratic, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, or
>> whatever positions. Don't you call it insanity when someone makes up
>> their
>> mind before they hear all the facts?" I rest my case.
>> CHEERS FROM BARBADOS!
>> BOB
>>
Received on Mon May 1 00:22:14 2006