Re: Since the list is so quiet....

No, please, not a laptop. I have wasted a lot of money on those things.
Never again. Pam is quite right, they go wrong and cost a fortune to repair
which is uneconomic.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pam Niedermayer" <pam@pinehill.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: Since the list is so quiet....

>I strongly recommend buying laptops new since they all seem to die within
>three years max. Now they can be resurrected, but at a huge relative cost.
>
> Pam
>
> Michael Koch-Schulte wrote:
>
>> Get a new (or two year old off lease) laptop with the wireless (wifi)
>> connection. Chances are you can get free internet from a neighbour's
>> unprotected wireless network....just my two cents ;^) (It'll also work at
>> Starbuck's, probably.)
>> ~m
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Judy Seigel <mailto:jseigel@panix.com>
>> *To:* alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>> <mailto:alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:38 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Since the list is so quiet....
>>
>>
>> Since the list is so quiet, I figured I might be able to appeal to
>> the
>> leashed brain power & expertise for advice on a problem that arrives
>> suddenly after more than 10 years of dial up... So I'm hopelessly
>> backward, but that's well known -- who else would take up gum
>> printing in
>> old age?
>>
>> My problem is -- I'm still doing e-mail by dial up --which
>> actually has
>> many advantages, including that I get to spend the oodles of money
>> saved
>> on more intellectual pursuits (although the real reason I do it is
>> (a)
>> stubborness... and (b) simplicity, I have enough systems, services,
>> contrivances, and "service providers" in this house for an army).
>> Besides
>> which I can really excuse myself from web hopping, which makes me old
>> before my time.... So what's the problem?
>>
>> A couple of weeks ago I started getting an intermittent "no dial
>> tone"
>> message from my attempts via terminal emulator (Z-term) to log on...
>> though I could lift up the phone and get a dial tone. Trying an
>> hour or
>> two later, I did get a tone, so I figured there was just too much
>> traffic... somewhere.
>>
>> But today I couldn't get a dial tone all day, so tonight
>> (12:30-ish AM) I
>> plugged into an extension of my husband's office phone which is
>> nearby (I
>> mean sometimes I HAVE to use touch tone, since my dearly beloved
>> white
>> antique wall phone is rotary... And, I'll have you know, I could
>> get $45
>> for that on e-bay. I think folks use them as planters, or ash
>> trays, or
>> something.)
>>
>> So there is a dial tone out there & the problem is... something in
>> the old
>> phone? (Sob !)... That's intermittent? The demons got tired of
>> Carmen and
>> found me? Sliding down the telephone wire?
>>
>> But how could my rotary phone be working, give me a dial tone and
>> calls in
>> and out but say it has no dial tone for a connection? And some time
>> later, with the same configuration, same connections, etc.,
>> decides to
>> work, then maybe the next week won't? A loose connection? A
>> flaky thumb
>> plug?
>>
>> Verizon has lately been taking an overdose of dumb pills and was
>> absolutely no use at all... they for instance left me one of those
>> robot
>> messages to say a non-working outlet was due to my faulty phone,
>> when it
>> belonged to somebody else in the house who had already had it
>> fixed -- by
>> verizon.
>>
>> So verizon said this problem was caused by my service provider,
>> but it
>> seems rather to be lodged in my old phone, a split personality of
>> some
>> sort. Anyway, I suppose that old phone which doesn't hear as well
>> as I do
>> any more is due to be replaced (ash tray anyone?). Can you still
>> buy a
>> landline phone? Anyway, thanks for listening, if anyone has a
>> suggestion,
>> that would be even better...
>>
>> Judy
>>
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