RE: Gum print sizing voodoo!! HELP!!

Hi Carmen, if you're having trouble getting the Black Magic to stick, it
could be that you need to actually add hardener to the emulsion before you
coat it. This is what I do when I'm printing on glass. I use formaldehyde,
because I can get it, but it is very irritating so I only use it under a
fume hood.

On the subject of silver emulsions, is anyone having problems with fogging
with Rocklands multicontrast "Liquid Light"? I keep getting fogging, using
an amber safelight. I think the supplier isn't storing it properly, but they
say it's more sensitive now. Can't say I've ever had any problems in the
past.

Cheers
Kate

-----Original Message-----
From: Carmen Lizardo [mailto:carmenlizardo@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2006 3:48 a.m.
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: Gum print sizing voodoo!! HELP!!

Sorry it took a while to report on my voodoo sizing
experience. Sometimes is hard to get to the computer
with a two year old and a four-month-old baby! But I
finally got the print done! As I was pondering on my vicissitudes, I
realized that all of my paper is sized in both sides! So I just turn around
my damaged print and printed the image in the other side. I could not get
the black magic stuff to work, and I also found that the glut made the paper
too slick, and the was much harder to make an even coat of gum. Being that
my prints are 22x30 inches, is harder to make it smooth out, but I can get a
perfect coat with the glyoxal, the paper seems to have a "tooth" that helps
the coating. I am also very sensitive to the glut and I am not the sensitive
type...(I only used 1.5 ml in 250 ml of gelatin, and even that irritated my
eyes, nose and
throat)

And Sam loved your idea of "I wanted it that way -
ain't I a genius?!" ? but I’ve been known to have
lectured students for doing that!

Thank you all.
Carmen

--- sam wang <stwang@clemson.edu> wrote:

> Carmen,
>
> Your best bet is to get the chemicals to wipe off
> the Sharpie marks.
> Buy that from an office supply store. Your gum
> should be able to
> withstand that.
>
> If you do want to reprint, you probably need to wait
> till the paper is
> free of the gelatin hardening agent, whatever it is.
> I have no
> experience with either of the ones you are using,
> but when I was
> hardening with formaldehyde, I had to wait for days
> before using the
> paper. Otherwise the gum gets all hardened as well -
> just like what
> occurred to yours.
>
> The third way to resolve this problem is to show it
> as it is - and to
> claim, as some of my students would say, "I wanted
> it that way - ain't
> I a genius?!"
>
> Good luck.
>
> Sam Wang
>
>
>
> On Aug 6, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Carmen Lizardo wrote:
> >
> > Okay, so I have to deliver this print by tomorrow
> to
> > this gallery, and my two year old took a sharpie
> and
> > made a masterpiece out of it…the wonders of
> > parenthood…
> >
> > So I started to make another one, but lord and
> behold,
> > I didn’t have any more sized paper. I decided not
> to
> > panic, and thought that if I work quickly I could
> size
> > a couple of sheets to get me through…but I ran out
> of
> > glyoxal, I started to get teary eyes, when I
> remember
> > I had a bottle of black magic hardener (LPP 92/LPE
> > 520), which I read on this list, was Gluthardhyde.
> I
> > added 6ml to my 1000 ml of gelatin, coated my
> paper,
> > waited anxiously for it to dry, proceeded to apply
> my
> > first coat of magenta and exposed, but the print
> never
> > develop. Even with a hard water hose nothing
> washed
> > off. I tried this several times, just to make
> sure,
> > and all I have are large magenta rectangles. Its
> like
> > the sizing is holding the pigment in. I even put
> an
> > unexposed (but coated) piece of paper in the water
> and
> > the pigment did not released. And just to make
> sure
> > that the problem was not in the emulsion I coated
> a
> > piece of paper that was hardened in glyoxal and
> that
> > cleared!
> > What am I doing wrong? I really need to finish
> this
> > print and my glyoxal is not going to get here on
> > time…. Maybe I am not using the black magic
> hardener
> > correctly?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Carmen
> >
> >
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