mass transit (was Re: How old are we? ***VERY*** OLD !!)

wow...this thread really says it best: artists can really only express themselves so far...i'll say that I'd love to meet anyone from this list just so long as they could put up with a taxi ride in Cairo..no one person can be drawn from expression of their "own feeling", but we all show ourselves in terror...come, join me in mass transit
  
  cheers...trevor cunningham

Ender100@aol.com wrote: Like two ships passing in the night.....
  
  Damn Sandy, after that first paragraph, I was expecting to read something really hot!
  
I too have met Judy—she bought me a corned beef sandwich at the Carnegie Deli in New York City. As Sandy says, she's far from the shriveled little old lady she would have you believe with her posts. Alas though, she still refuses to pose nude for my camera.....now Sandy, on the other hand....but that's another story hehehehe (just kidding Sandy)
  
  As I travel around the country, I try to meet people from the list. Some are very much like what you would expect from their posts on the list—others are quite different. When you actually meet people face to face, with rare exception, you go away feeling richer from getting to know them and seeing their work. Our impressions from the list are not always accurate and I would dare say that we would all like more people than we think we would if we met them face to face—and we would probably be more polite with them onlist as a result. A very few we might just stone to death. hehehe
  
  I have even had dinner with T-Rex, though obviously that did nothing to prevent the frequent necessity for a vigorous degassing.
  
  This is not to say that some of the very people you enjoy and love will not sometimes piss you off with their posts. I am sure there are folks that I have irritated with my humor (or attempts at it) over the years I have been on the list—or maybe they just find my laugh annoying. hehehehe.
  
  Normally I just read what interests me and delete the rest. I can even live with some of the bickering that occurs. I do however agree with Camden that healthy arguments are fine—it's when it turns personal that it gets nasty. If people could just avoid that, it would solve 99% of the list problems. Then there are those rare occasions where the personal attacks go way over the top. I am not in favor of censorship, however there have to be some rules in a community, be they ever so basic, or the community will not survive. I have yet to see anyone banned from this list by Gordon that didn't deserve it.
  
  So when people regularly fly under the radar of "behavior worthy of banning" and are just plain irritating but not "bannable"—you have your delete key. It's not that difficult to know who these people are in a list. You can figure it out with a #2 pencil. It's the old Sociogram. You write all the names from the list in a circle. Then when you see a post that has a hint of nastiness in it, you draw a line between the two people. In the end, the person(s) with the most lines connecting them to other people win.... or lose.
  
  There is one anomaly on this list and it is both a blessing and a curse—the abundance of talented gum printers. I don't know exactly what it is about gum—perhaps it is the abundance of variables that are so difficult to control that eventually drives them over the edge...... were there Platinum Wars at one time? Cyanotype Wars? Well, I suppose this isn't unusual.... just log on to APUG and type "DIGITAL ANYTHING" and see if you aren't pounded to the consistency of a bowl of gruel in less than a nanosecond.
  
  I will confess that I too have my weaknesses and frailties. There are times at 2:00 am or 3:00 am when I read a post and I just can't let my finger hit that delete key. Something stirs inside and I make that initial mistake of whacking the REPLY button. On rare occasion I cancel the reply or better yet, put it in the "Send Later After Brain Is Engaged Basket." But sometimes both of these options fail and I send a response to the list that would better have been sent privately to the person.... or maybe not even sent at all.
  
  And I try not to make any sort of political comments on the list, since I know that saying things like "This administration is the scariest thing I have ever seen, has hijacked our country, attacked the Constitution, turned the Corporate Predators loose on the citizens, squandered our country's respect and leadership in the eyes of the rest of the world, and violated the Geneva Conventions" will only cause a great deal of angst among list members and tons of email to respond to and besides that is not the topic of this list..... it is Alt Photo. So, how bout that Palladium stuff, don't it make great hand made prints?
  
  Best Wishes,
  Mark Nelson, FRPITA
  
  Precision Digital Negatives--The Book
  PDNPrint Forum at Yahoo Groups
  www.MarkINelsonPhoto.com
  
  
  In a message dated 7/28/06 5:47:11 PM, sanking@clemson.edu writes:
  
  
  
  Judy,
  
  Although we have not always agreed I think you area a fabulous
  person. And more beautiful, interesting and intriguing in real life
  than on the list! I only spent a few hours with you, many years ago
  in NY, but the experience is one I treasure.
  
  I understand your frustration in the present situation, but you are
  not alone. Just look at recent comments by Don, Mark Nelson and me
  with regard to the present situation. You have folks here, many, who
  agree with you and are on your side.
  
  
  
  
  

"The optimist believes this is the best of all possible worlds.
 The pessimist fears it's true" - J Robert Oppenheimer
 
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