Re: Carbon processes?

NADO000 (LNADEAU@unb.ca)
Tue, 14 Jun 94 11:16:05 ADT

> I am interested in learning how to produce high quality color
> prints. I talked to a Kodak representative for professional services
> at a recent display on campus about the demise of the dye transfer
> process.
>
> He talked about how he did dye transfer prints while in school and
> mentioned another process, carbon I think, that is capable of making
> high quality prints. He said that they have a "depth" to them that
> makes you almost want to reach out and touch them.
>
> Could someone please tell me where to look for more information and
> what I should do to get started? I've seen numerous references to
> Luis Nadeau's History and Practice of Carbon Processes in messages
> in the group. Is this where I should start? Is there a new version
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Only if you are a
masochist. The book refers to the traditional double transfer process
for which there is no material commercially available. It is also a
very lengthy and very difficult technique.

Your best bet is the Ultracolor process, for which we should have full
info in the FAQ.

Please note that these newer processes can produce prints that are
both gorgeous and permanent. They are not the most beautiful however,
in the opinion of those who compare them side by side with the
traditional double transfer carbons. The latter can use *easily* real
paper as a base and in many cases the relief of the blacks is
advantageous. Admitedly however, there are images where the relief is
distracting.

No process is perfect all the time.

> of this book coming our soon? Where can I get it?

Not soon. Perhaps next year.
>
> I've been educated as a chemist, but I do most of my work in
^^^^^^^^^^^^
It doen't hurt, but it is certainly not a requirement. Patience and
long hours of work are the requirements. BTW the Maine Photo Workshops
has 2 or 3 workshops that make use of Ultrastable materials this
summer.

> computing. I don't mind spending time on something if the end
> result exciting to me.
>
> I'm just coming up to speed on 4 x 5 photography. I've been working
> on black and white photography, but I'm interested in color. Should
> I be shooting color transparencies or negatives to me most compatible
> with the color process that I want to use? I'd prefer to start
> learning with the appropriate negative to that I can calibrate my
> processing.

With the new carbon processes, the most difficult part is color
separations. Contact the supplier and see what they recommend. Unless
you are independently wealthy, you'll have to have your digitized seps
made by a service bureau. That is not cheap either, but the cost is quic
kly amortized when you need multiple prints.

Luis Nadeau
>
> Thanks, in advance, for your comments.
>
> Bill Patterson
> WPATTERSON@asap.bus.wisc.edu
>
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