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Re: Ink color for digital negs

Loris, I think that's interesting about the paper negatives, since I've been thinking about paper negatives today. I used paper negatives for several years, after my old Photo Stylus EX got so it wouldn't make a decent negative on transparencies, but I've been using film since I bought a 1280 last winter. But I just came across a monochrome print I made a year ago from a paper negative, of a scene that I'm now printing in color from inkjet transparencies, and I realized that I like the print made with the paper negative ever so much better. There's something indefinable, some smoothness or creaminess of the tonal transitions and of the edges, that I just prefer. So maybe I'll be going back to paper too.

Also, I'm delighted that someone is experimenting with yupo. I thought it had promise but have never had the time to perfect its performance for me. I look forward to seeing your prints. Not sure I understand the FPG and FEB designations; these are different versions of the product?

On Oct 9, 2006, at 7:11 AM, Loris Medici wrote:

We used paper negatives in Keith's gum workshop (Istanbul) and I was
surprised with the fine results we got (black ink only). I'm inclined to use
paper negatives for future gum works. I guess I won't need the sharpness
which ultra low dot gain transparency media provides since I will print "a
la Keith" (= big, around A3 - A3+).

I'm currently making trials on dimensionally stable and ultra fast drying
Yupo paper. The results are promising. I first coat Yupo with Daler Rowney
System 3 Gesso (acrylic base AFAIK, quite matte and porous finish, I do two
coats) then I coat it with 3-4% gelatine (two coats). The whole operation
takes 10 minutes (I dry the paper with hairdryer). This way gum can stay on
surface (if I don't do this surface preparation, gum will simply leave the
paper in pieces no matter how much I expose).

Will start to calibrate soon. Keith is a little bit skeptical about curves
since his negative making workflow is quite different from ours (35mm film
recorder -> enlarged negatives on lith film in darkroom) but I think we can
get better prints when compared to uncurved negatives.

More later (soon I hope - I just can't wait to share my first succesfull
multicolor gum prints with you folks!)

Best regards,


From: Marek Matusz [mailto:marekmatusz@hotmail.com]
Sent: 09 Ekim 2006 Pazartesi 16:09
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: Ink color for digital negs

.. On the other hand when printing negatives for gum I use "print black ink
only" option. Chris has pointed me that way. Actually for gum I use cheap
transparency and with black ink only there is little problem with printer
marks and drying ...