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RE: VDB metal bleed in water bath



Hi David, glad to hear that you're having better results. Indeed, use of
excessive coating solution is one cause for bleeding. (Because the
emulsion is not in the paper but on it and will slide off when you put
the print in water.)

I was using Ilfotol with Classic Cyanotypes (same sensitizer as Vandyke:
Ammonium Iron(III) Citrate) a couple of years ago - amount was 1 to 4
drops per 10cc of sensitizer. (Don't add this in your stock sensitizer
solution by extrapolating the figures!) You have to "experiment" to find
the correct amount for your paper / working conditions.

If you put a sheet of impermeable/airtight material (for instance a
polyester sheet, a scrap piece of negative transparency material...
ect.) under the paper, you'll end up sealing it by its two sides
(negative in front, polyester sheet at the back). This won't totally
prevent loosing moisture, but it will slow its pace considerably...

Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays to all!
Loris.

-----Original Message-----
From: david drake [mailto:daviddrakephoto@sympatico.ca] 
Sent: 24 Aralık 2006 Pazar 20:52
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: VDB metal bleed in water bath


I've been really lucky lately, it's been mild here in toronto with above
normal humidity. Before coating yesterday, I notice that my coating
table was no longer level. This was probably the major culprit ( as I'm
using a Puddle Pusher)! The prints turned out much more even with only
minor staining (landscapes with paper white skies don't help).
I will try your Everclear suggestion Sandy and order some Tween from
B&S. Loris mentioned Photoflo in his post. Would this work just as well
as Tween? How much would one use per ml of sensitizer?
My coating room was just under 50% RH and exposure room was around 35%.
So it wasn't  outrageously dry. I just sealed my paper in a black
plastic photo paper bag for transport between locations, to help keep in
moisture.