Re: Source for Uranium Nitrate

[Mark Booth <boothm@mac.com>]

I agree with you Dick and understand your points and sarcasm over the  
extreme regulations we now face, some of which are just ridiculous.   
Few others would know this better than yourself in business.

I do appreciate the caution that C. Breukel has offered and it is  
always important to error on the side of safety.  Wisdom  
appreciated!!  I think that extremely careful use is fine for those  
who take proper considerations and practices into account.  (I wonder  
how Uranium Nitrate would taste mixed with Metamucil... talk about a  
laxative with lasting properties)

At this point the real issue is procurement and present  
affordability.  Robert Schramm has been a great help off-line and his  
recommendations are appreciated, along with handling and formulation.

Mark Andrew's recommendation on Spectrum Chemicals is a great help.   
I live in Seattle, but travel to L.A. on occasion by car or by air.   
I got a chuckle from Joachim's observation on worker's refusing to  
enter a building with Edison light bulbs.  (life is interesting and  
so is my vivid imagination)

Thanks forum for your recommendations.
~ Mark Booth


On Jan 30, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Richard Sullivan wrote:

> I was not taking it lightly. It is extremely toxic. I was  
> commenting on having to ship it lead containers. You can ship  
> cyanides much easier. yes, it is highly toxic, no doubt but the  
> issue is radioactivity.
>
> --Dick
> \
> C.Breukel@lumc.nl wrote:
> > Dick,
> >
> > I am realy surprised by your reply...I will not..oude koeien uit de
> > sloot halen....(dutch verb)..but:
> >
> > I do think that the stuff should NOT be treated lightly:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranyl_nitrate
> >
> > Health and environmental issues
> >
> > Uranyl nitrate is an oxidizing and highly toxic compound and  
> > should not
> > be ingested; it causes severe renal insufficiency and acute tubular
> > necrosis and is a lymphocyte mitogen. Target organs include the  
> > kidneys,
> > liver, lungs and brain. It also represents a severe fire and  
> > explosion
> > risk when heated or subjected to shock in contact with oxidizable
> > substances.
> >
> >
> > http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/UR/uranium_nitrate.html
> >
> > Toxicology
> >
> >       Toxic by inhalation or ingestion. Should be treated as a  
> > potential
> > carcinogen. May cause mutagenic or teratogenic effects. Danger of
> > cumulative effects. Caustic, corrosive.
> >
> > Yyes, yes, ofcourse Mark will not eat it, but nevertheless...
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Cor
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Sullivan [mailto:richsul@earthlink.net]
> > > Sent: dinsdag 30 januari 2007 16:30
> > > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> > > Subject: Re: Source for Uranium Nitrate
> > >
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > Gonna be really hard to get. It now needs to be shipped as a
> > radioactive
> >
> > > substance in approved lead lined containers and all of that crap.  
> > > I am
> > > not even sure if can go on airplanes. We quit shipping it several
> > years
> >
> > > ago. Cole Parmer used to carry it but they quit when the shipping  
> > > went
> > > sky-high.
> > http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/product_view.asp?sku=00043XC
> >
> > > You can see they discontinued it as well.
> > >
> > > I think it is all a big bunch of hooey. It is in fact slightly
> > > radioactive but only slightly. All the good bomb making stuff has
> > > already been taken out, and that makes logical sense. I have my own
> > > special horde of it, about 300 gms left that we can't sell, and I  
> > > once
> > > showed the bottle  to some students visiting and their professor
> > freaked
> >
> > > and virtually ran out of the room. Like most airport security, it's
> > all
> >
> > > show.
> > >
> > > --Dick Sullivan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark Booth wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am seeking a good source for purchasing Uranium Nitrate for
> > creating
> >
> > > > a Uranium toner solution.  So far I have had trouble finding a
> > > > source.  PF doesn't carry this item and I would suspect that
> > hazardous
> >
> > > > considerations may be a factor or scarcity.
> > > >
> > > > Specific Application:  Perhaps there is an alternative toner with
> > > > similar effects (realizing that considerable differences exist with
> > > > formulas and applications).  My initial use would be with
> > > > silver-gelatin and then moving to eventual non-silver application.
> > It
> >
> > > > is said by Robert Schramm, in his excellent but short article
> > > > regarding Uranium Toning  www.unblinkingeye.com
> > > > <http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Uranium/uranium.html>  to  
> > > > produce
> > > > red-brown tones on silver prints and blue, green and red tones on
> > > > platinum prints.   If one reads the article, figure #1 image
> > presents
> >
> > > > a similar effect that I would like to replicate, as much as
> > possible,
> >
> > > > /girl aside!/  I would be inclined to use Bergger VC NB paper or
> > > > Silver Supreme paper for a given motive that I have photographed.
> > > > Then figure #2 toning would be of future interest in other
> > > > applications.  (effects are considerably different on platinum vs.
> > > > silver as can be seen)
> > > >
> > > > Anyone's recommendations or suggestions would be greatly  
> > > > appreciated
> > > > to this (less experienced) practitioner.  I imagine that Tim
> > Rudman's
> >
> > > > book, /The Photographer's Toning Book/, would be a good source to
> > > > review as well!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Mark Booth
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > */
> > > > /*