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Re: Tacky attraction< (was Solarplate images...website)


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  • Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:47:39 -0500
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Hi Mark,

Maybe.

This polymer feels kind of gummy... (like those little gummy bear
candies I find in my son's pockets, all covered in lint.)  Might be
that heat would make them even more tacky.... BUT if that turned out
to be true, then maybe cooling prior to exposure would help.  Couldn't
allow condensate to form though... these things are water soluble!

thanks for the idea, mark.

susan

On 2/26/07, Ender100@aol.com <Ender100@aol.com> wrote:
Susan,

 Bunch of good ideas there.... would a hair dryer on the plate and emulsion
side of the positive just before putting them together and rolling out the
bubbles help reduce some of the tackiness?

 Best Wishes,
 Mark Nelson

 Precision Digital Negatives - The System
 PDNPrint Forum at Yahoo Groups
 www.MarkINelsonPhoto.com

 In a message dated 2/26/07 8:14:47 PM, susanvoss3@gmail.com writes:



So the leprositic measles we're getting in our gravure prints may be
 from the tackiness of the KM73 plate surface against the inked side of
 the OHP film.  Talcum powder helped but didn't solve my problem.  So
 now I wonder how we combat this tacky issue?

 We need to allow the trapped air to move to the outside edge of the
 plate/ohp sandwich, so the vacuum can pull it out.

 I'm just brainstorming here...

 corn starch (maybe it's better in some way than powders which have
 other additives)

 some wet type of lubricant?  can't use water of course, but what about
 oil?  would a light oil film dissolve the inkjet ink?  Would it wash
 off the polymer plate easily during development?  I could imagine
 using a brayer to bring the ohp in firm contact with the plate before
 exposing... working from the inside out to push air pockets to the
 edges.

 Using the brayer idea through Krene plastic during drawdown to help
 push the air bubbles to the edges of the plate where they could
 escape.

 is there some type of thin film we could add to the sandwich, in the
 middle... nah, that sounds like a newton ring nightmare...

 one more thing... what if we expose the positive with the printed side
 UP away from the plate?  Is the opposite side of the ohp as tacky?
 Would it make an unacceptable difference in image sharpness?

 susan, frustrated.












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