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Re: Jose Ortiz-Echague and Fresson


I don't remember having a disagreement with Sandy . . . the two of us can be 
rather direct which I suppose could come across as a disagreement . . . not 
that it would every matter to me but do you happen to recall who won ? 
(Please note that if in your opinion I clearly won the disagreement please 
reply to the alt list otherwise send me a private reply . . . obviously it 
should detail the particulars of the tie.)

It is difficult to discern fact from conjecture when reading any of the 
literature in that the fundamental process had been kept a secret.  Speaking 
for myself I enjoy debating the historical accounts and believe that healthy 
discussion leads to better insight on everyone's part. This list and APIS 
have been an invaluable resource for new information, ideas and valued debate.

In any event I don't have my reference materials with me and therefor I can't 
be certain if I have a copy of that particular article.  I'll check this week-

I sincerely appreciate the offer.  Art

On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:12:53  0000 (GMT), zphoto@montana.net wrote
> This is probably a question for Sandy King and Art Chakalis,
> but anyway, I came across an article on Echague which he
> actually dictated to Jordan in the American Annual of
> Photography 1950.  Therein he talks about his works, LOTS of
> pictures, and his processes he uses.  I remember, Sandy and
> Art, the two of you having a disagreement about Echague at
> the last APIS and couldn't remember what it was about but I
> THOUGHT it was about Fresson and whether he used it or not. 
> SO, if it was, what he says in the article is this: 
> gum processes 1906- like say 1925, bromoil 1925, after a
> couple years he went back to gum processes. 1925-35 he sent
> large no.s of works to salons, on Fresson paper.  He talks
> of Artigue paper that was available in the early years but
> disappeared 20 years ago (written in 1950).  Then there was
> Artistique made in France, and Hochheimer in Germany, but
> the Fresson paper is what he used by pref for many years. 
> He also says he went into depth on this process in the 1929
> issue of the American Annual.
> All this stuff is old hat to the both of you I am sure, but
> if perchance you don't have this article, I xeroxed it.
> Chris
> Assistant Professor of Photography
> Photography Option Coordinator
> Montana State University
> College of Arts and Architecture
> Department of Media and Theatre Arts, Room 220
> P.O. Box 173350
> Bozeman, MT 59717-3350
> Tel (406) 994 6219
> CZAphotography.com

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