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Christina's Suggestion re Gelatine replacing Gum



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Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: Bleach-development with gum

> Loris,
> Any chance you would try this method with gelatin and a
> layer of gum on top, unhardened gelatin?  A thick cushy
> layer?  In other words, make a carbon print with a gum or
> albumen layer and then the 6% hypochlorite solution? I just
> wonder if the Javel works best with a recalcitrant layer
> like gelatin/carbon printing.  I mean, I can't IMAGINE
> exposing a print outside all day for 6 hr and expecting to
> get something, but with a thick, highly pigmented gelatin
> layer maybe this is possible.  I suppose that is a question
> for Sandy or John to answer.
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  Chris,
             For myself ( John ) I think you are supposing wrongly. I have never tried  your suggestion.  Why dont you try it and report back  with an answer?
  Loris,  I wish you every success.      As for Sandy, working with Carbon Transfer, I  do not recall  bleach featuring anywhere in his formulae.. I may be wrong.
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>
> Your running/staining you described was exactly what Demachy
> and Anderson wanted--it gave them a "broken color" as they
> termed it, effect which we now, of course, call
> "impressionism".  They called for exposing the layer briefly
> so that upon a short development there was a slight running
> of the layer to blur the outlines and mush the image a bit.
> So that might be something for you to cultivate!  I will try
> that method shortly. 
 
Please do that as I do not wish to, myself . Too busy making Direct Carbon  prints.
John.
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>
> Anyway, since you are experimenting in the dimroom here are
> two other things for you to try. I'm sure you have lots of
> extra time :)
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HE HE HE HE HE HE  ! !
>
> BTW, if you are getting flaking with sizing, have you tried
> to decrease your gelatin strength a bit and make sure the
> sizing penetrates the paper instead of sticks on top? It may
> be that your surface is too slick.  However, if stain or low
> contrast is not an issue for you, then scratch this
> suggestion because you wouldn't need to size then.
> Chris
 
Ciao,
 John- Photographist - London - UK
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