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John - Photographist - London - UK.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 4:42 AM
Subject: [point of the point] was Re: archivalness of gum
>
> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, Katharine Thayer
wrote:
>
>> Hue names are useless for gum printing, because they
tell you nothing about
>> the pigments involved; if you don't
know and understand the pigments you're
>> using, you're losing out on
one of the crucial control variables of gum
>> printing in my
experience. So discussing colors in terms of hue
names just
>> confuses and misleads people, and I can't see any
point in it.
>
> Katharine, you're doing it again...
taking charge of list content. That
> YOU "can't see any point in it"
does NOT render a discussion illegitimate.
> About 3/4 of
all list discussion has "no point" to some of us (including
> yours, I
might add, even conceivably mine), but there was in fact some
> history,
meaning, and intention attached to those comments... to at least
> two of
us, probably more, even lacking your seal of approval.
>
> Nor is
it written that anything not "useful for gum printing" is verboten
> on
the list.
>
> "Confuses and misleads people"? Not at all, tho
it apparently takes them
> into other territory than Katharine allows...
but it seems to me if folks
> have the wit to get here, they're adults,
and have the wit to weigh
> information for themselves.
>
>
Statements may get corrected, or arguments ensue, which can be empty
>
posturing or richly informative. But the criterion is still not whether
>
Katharine sees the point. We did.
>
> Judy
>
>>>
The
>>> point is simply I was concurring with Judy that indigo is
nowadays a
>>> hue/tone name. As a mix, each manufacturer is free to
use different
>>> pigments
>>> in different
proportions. One needs to check the content.
>>>
>>> As
to listing pigment by pigment numbers, that is always true in
another
>>> context. But here we are not talking about USING INDIGO
PIGMENT. In fact,
>>> the context is the opposite. We are talking
about indigo not being a
>>> pigment
>>> in
manufactured watercolors but a hue/tone name.
>>>
>>>
Dave
>>>
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