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Re: SPE and alt update



Susan,

I think your point is well taken. I really don't want to tell anyone
what to call a process or what process to use, but using the same name
for both seems a little like saying that a silver print made from a
colodion negative is the same as a silver print from a digital
negative. The paper, ink and etching press are the same for both
intaglio processes just as both silver prints are the same objects in
their physical presentation. I think there would be outrage on this
list if the silver image from digital was presented with terms that
would suggest that it was collodion. Everyone knew what photo gravure
was prior to the plastic plate process, now that is at risk. I would
just like to see terms that make an honest distinction between the
historical and modern process.

PS I love the prints from the plastic plate process. My rant is not a
criticism of that process, just a concern for clarity.

PPS Chris, I know that entering the world of preparing plates and
printing intaglio has a significant learning curve. If you do the
copper process some time I think you will see the difference in the
number of steps, the levels of control, and the attention to building
the light sensitive image on the copper and getting it into the
copper. I'm sure have read about all this so you can imagine what I
mean. I am no expert on this, I made a few photogravures back in the
60s but that is all. I did try reversing the method and using a
gelatin solution with white pigment to hand paint an image on an
aquatinted copper plate. After hardening the coating with bichromate I
etched it in the several strengths of acid as usual and produced an
interesting image. I found the painting in reverse (seeing the bare
copper as the image and painting in the whites) frustrating and never
did anything more with it.

Jack

On 4/4/08, SusanV <susanvoss3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just feel that artists have enough challenges, and don't need fellow
> artists belittling their
> choice of materials.  If those who use copper plates feel the need to make
> that distinction
> then they certainly should, but don't tell others what they can or can't
> call their works.  I mean,
>  if the final images are so similar that we have to use labels in order to
> tell the difference....
>
> susan
>
>
> --
> susan
> gravure blog at www.susanvossgravures.blogspot.com
>  website www.dalyvoss.com