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Re: gum question



Isn't there some way to have a Flickr group that anyone can post an image to? Perhaps we should start one for the alt list. It would be great to see more image examples from members of the list.

Joe


On Jun 7, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:

Oops-- sorry about that. I wasn't thinking. I hope no one's computer crashed, and yes-- hopefully, the list police are asleep. Yikes

Thanks, Sam. That means a lot. I really loved it myself, but I wasn't sure if I only felt that way, simply because I was comparing it to the other prints I'd been doing. Yeah, he bothered me quite a lot when he said it, but mostly because it took so many failures and such work to finally make a decent print. Turns out his wife really liked it, so at least she has good taste. ;) I am connected to another gallery that shows only alt processes, so they're used to photographs not looking like photographs and seem to really like it. I don't know-- since when are people worried about photographs looking "photographic?" As I said, I did a few other gum prints from zone plates, but it was difficult to get something that would, after a few layers, remain somewhat defined. The ones that were fairly simple, in composition and information-- like this one-- seemed to do the best. I'm crazy about the zone plates, though, and what a boon to actually be able to see (well, sort of) what I'm actually taking a picture of . . .





On Jun 7, 2008, at 9:24 PM, sam wang wrote:

That print is a beauty!
(But sorry that I have to remind you that no one is supposed to include attachments. Let's hope the list police is asleep)

I would definitely take gallery owners' words with a grain of salt! And curators. And critics! Trust your own instinct! If you were doing it solely to sell, and sell in just that one gallery, then you would need to listen to the person. Otherwise, absolutely not!

Sam

On Jun 7, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:

Oh, I bet that made for a beautiful portrait. I guess I didn't know clay came in anything but brick red. That's all I've ever seen. I have, indeed, heard of pregnant women eating clay and dirt-- is that only in the South?

This particular image I've been working with today is from a Diana camera. Of course, it's not sharp to begin with, but I was surprised at how well it did with that one coat. I'll take a picture of it and post when it dries. I added a yellow layer (after sizing it after that first coat). I wish I'd left it alone, but the yellow layer looks okay.

I did make a few gum images from zone plates. Most were a disappointment--and, as you say, got kind of muddy or mush-like after a few layers-- but I'll attach one I really liked. A few people from the list have seen this already. I really loved it, but my gallery owner here saw it and said he was "underwhelmed." Worse yet, he was dismayed because it "didn't look like a photograph." I don't know. Maybe my standards have gone down, but after a lot of failures, this one seemed really successful, in comparison. I just liked the way the colors transitioned so smoothly, and my whites stayed white. Don't know how well this will come across on your screen. I took the photo of the print itself by window light with my digital camera, so take it for what it's worth. It really is pretty (in real life)-- or, at least, I like to think it is. This was with your zone plate cap, Sam, on my Canon 5D. I printed this on sized (w/gelatin and glut for hardener) Fabriano Artistico.



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