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Re: help identifying camera/film

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Z. Anderson" <zphoto@montana.net>
To: "Alt List" <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:50 PM
Subject: help identifying camera/film

Dear all,

NOT alt related per se but what the heck, unless film is
"alt" now:

This probably serves no purpose but to satisfy my
curiosity.  I have been going through these old family pix
and have come across the camera that took a bunch of BW
negs I have from my family of origin.  Here are 3 shots of
what is the camera.  Does anyone know what camera this is
and what the "number" of film it took was?  It is
definitely roll film.

I put it on a page on my website called "Miscellaneous",
where I can post a pic or two every now and then for
discussion purposes, so the page is poorly done but oh


Christina Z. Anderson
There is a list of Kodak folding cameras at:

It shows the number of the film used but not the format
size. I have another publication from Kodak showing
discontinued roll film sizes, I will try to find it. I
originally got it from the web site of Thom Bell who was one
of Kodak's professional consultants. I don't think the web
site is there anymore.
Autographic cameras were originally intended to be used
with Autographic film. This film had a fiberous paper
backing which could be scratched away using a metal stylus
that came with the camera. There is a small window with a
flap on the back of the camera which allows writing on the
film. The scratched away areas exposed the emulsion leaving
the writing in the margin between pictures. A sort of early
data back. The system didn't work very well and was
discontinued after 1932. I think similar cameras but without
the window were made later than that. Autographic cameras
came in at least three sizes and non-autographic film was
made for all of them.
I have a No.3 Autographic but its much larger than the
camera in your pictures, I think it was the largest size
made. The film gate in mine measures 3-1/4 x 5-1/2, the
width of the film must have been about 3-3/4 inch from the
dimentions of the film channel. It was No. A-122.
If you can find a copy of McKeown's Guide at the library
you can probably identify it exactly.

Also check out http://www.nwmangum.com/Kodak/ which has pictures and some info an a lot of Kodak cameras. However beware because he evidently does not know the difference between f/stops and the old US stop system which was used by B&L for its Rapid-Rectilinear lenses supplied to Kodak for many years after it was obsolete. I've written to him about this, probably will go in the round file.

Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA