Re: P. Maroon

[Katharine Thayer <kthayer@pacifier.com>]

Rajul,  If you were asking about perylene maroon as a substitute for  
alizarin crimson, as per a recent thread, then I'd urge even more  
strongly to consider PR 175.

I just remembered I have a page on my site from several years ago  
that has rough paint swatches of some different "magentas"  that I  
found recommended for tricolor in a number of different gum texts ,  
along with my comments about them.  If you'll look at the other  
swatches in comparison to the alizarin crimson, it shouldn't be too  
hard to see that the PR 175 is the closest match to alizarin  
crimson.  I wasn't trying to match the swatches in value, so the deep  
scarlet swatch is deeper and richer than the alizarin crimson, but a  
drop of water would probably make them a perfect match, as the hue is  
relatively close.

http://www.pacifier.com/~kthayer/html/Magentas.html

Perylene maroon wasn't included in that sample of swatches, since it  
wasn't recommended by any of the texts I looked at, but take a look  
at handprint's swatches of PR 179 for a rough comparison.

I've been remodeling my website off and on for the last couple of  
years, and the galleries are still offline, or I'd show you a bunch  
of tricolors that were made using PR 175 over a number of years,    
but for the moment, just look at the apricots on the main page;   
that's a typical example of my tricolor work using PR 175 as the  
"magenta."  It is a lovely deep rich scarlet that combines  
beautifully with other color layers to make rich jewel-like colors.

http://www.pacifier.com/~kthayer/

Hope any of that is useful,
Katharine


On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Katharine Thayer wrote:

> Odd, it's listed in the new DS catalog, but I don't find it on the  
> page where the colors are shown in swatches.  Well, never mind, I'm  
> not questioning your information, just puzzled why they didn't take  
> it out of the catalog.
>
> W&N and Rowney also market a Perylene Maroon (PR 179) but if you  
> need something in the Daniel Smith line, I'd suggest their PR 175,  
> Deep Scarlet, which for years and years was my favorite red for  
> tricolor gum.  Not sure what you're looking for (what hue range and  
> value range and what kind of printing you want to use it for) but  
> this is a deep rich scarlet, which when I was comparing many  
> different pigments for tricolor a couple of years ago,  I found to  
> be remarkably similar in appearance to alizarin crimson (PR 83)  
> but  lightfast.  Hope any of that is useful,
> Katharine
>
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Rajul wrote:
>
>
> > The local art store (the only one) informs me that Perylene Maroon  
> > is no longer stocked by Daniel Smith.
> > Can anyone suggest a close second?
> >
> > Thanks!  Rajul