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Re: Art Boards Gesso???

My understanding is that lithography/etching and other printing inks
are also linseed oil, and since they have been used for centuries on
paper, I doubt that there is much call for concern.  I'm certainly no

2008/10/6 Loris Medici <mail@loris.medici.name>:
> That would be great -> even greater if it proves to be useful. I would
> definitely order from them! Yes, I agree about usual acrylic gesso
> rejecting gum -> I had the same experience, that's why I'm looking for
> something else. The best working acrylic gesso was Daler Rowney System 3
> gesso (w/ calcium carbonate addition) but it wasn't as good as I wanted it
> to be...
> I have used oil paint (albeit quite thick consistency). What oil is used
> in lithography ink? AFAIK, linseed oil in usual oil paints is harmful to
> paper fibers (due to acids?)
> Regards,
> Loris.
> 6 Ekim 2008, Pazartesi, 5:12 pm tarihinde, Keith Gerling yazmış:
>> I haven't used this particular product, but I am interested in trying
>> it.  I am especially drawn by this statement: "Its balance is
>> carefully formulated to have more refined dry solids and less acrylic
>> polymers. "  Most acrylic gessoes produces a "plasticky" finish that
>> rejects gum emulsion.  Adding additional marble powder to other
>> gessoes has resulted in flaking and peeling.
>> Loris, are you using lithography ink or oil paint?  The stiff ink that
>> is used in print work should not cause oil stains (at least I have
>> never seen this).
>> I am attempting to print some large oilprints on aluminum.  For me,
>> the rigid surface makes the oiling process far easier.  Mistakes can
>> be "erased" with mineral spirits.
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Loris Medici <mail@loris.medici.name>
>> wrote:
>>> I found a product which sounds interesting for those who want to print
>>> gum
>>> on impermeable and/or rigid surfaces like Yupo, aluminum sheets, wooden
>>> painting boards ect. ect... This product is also interesing for gumoil,
>>> since gumoil is done with oil paints on paper -> which is not a good
>>> combination for those who like / want longevity with their works. If I
>>> can
>>> print on wood I want to try gumoils. (Have tried with paper, got
>>> interesting / promising results but didn't like the oil stain on the
>>> back
>>> of the paper at all!)
>>> See the product page here: http://tinyurl.com/3s3w9e (read to bottom)
>>> Has anyone used this (or any similar) product before? I'm still highly
>>> interested in printing on impermeable media like Yupo or aluminum sheets
>>> -
>>>  giving me five important advantages: 1. cheaper price (Fabriano
>>> Artistico
>>> is quite expensive to me compared to Yupo or aluminum sheets), 2.
>>> dimensional stability (no shrinking step / no registration problems), 3.
>>> quick drying (faster working), 4. easier reusability in case of bummers
>>> (you can be harsh while erasing with Yupo / aluminum and such), 5.
>>> better
>>> longevity compared to paper - but haven't found a reliable / easy to me
>>> method. Keith, I envy your ability and patience in printing on aluminum!
>>> Any suggestions for / experience with similar products?
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Loris.