GORD ET AL.,
have been on this list since 1998 and it was, along with Judy’s WJPFP,
instrumental in helping me gain knowledge in many alt media. Living in Barbados I am
often the only practitioner of some media (PT/PD) with just one or two others
who have some knowledge of Cyanotypes. Without this list and the amazing
generosity and sharing of so many of its members I would have had to travel to
a 1st world country to take workshops…a rather expensive and
time consuming proposition.
again to Gord and all those who have helped me directly by replying to my
(sometimes foolish) questions and indirectly by posting their own questions and
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008
Subject: RE: alt-photo anniversary
If it will make you feel any better over your "illicit digital
sex", put your 14.4 oz camera on a 20 lb tripod and set it up on the
streets of New York.
I am sure you will draw a crowd! hehehehe
thanks for your remembrances!
On Nov 19, 2008, at 10:35:20 PM, "Judy Seigel"
That's not why I'm writing, but I must mention that Greg Schmitz, whom I'd
picked up in the hall at Pratt, or maybe it was the other way around, told
me about the list, sent me to Panix, and generally led the way. I was so
thrilled by the incredible list info and the personalit(ies) -- then out
of Australia courtesy of Steve Avery -- that I downloaded the entire
archive (from 1994 to 1997 [Mike Ware, Steve Avery, Carson Graves, Allan
Janus, Luis Nadeau, Peter Marshall, Bob Schramm, Bernie Boudreau, Henk
Thijs, and "photo Dave" (Dave Soemarko), among others]) and printed
-- and still have the stack on the shelf at my back as I write.
No, I didn't remember all those names, just picked them up by checking a
page or two... And now I measure the stack (regular typing-laser paper,
printed one side): As near as I can measure, just shy of 4 inches (10
Among my reactions to the list, most dramatic was that I'd been studying
furiously on my own, testing, reading, experimenting, reading,
researching, and testing, for several years, and -- given the givens and
the time, had learned (I thought) quite a lot-- but I had the feeling
that, between the archive and the ongoing discourse, one year on the list
doubled that info.
Of course the cast of characters has changed, though some folks seem to
weave in and out... the tenor of discourse is a lot like then -- mostly
good natured, warm, and collegial, with the occasional, um, dust-up. But
there's been a shift in content... now a lot of digital and inkjet. IMO
inevitably. I myself am NOT about to give up my digital camera (weighs
just 14.4 ounces so I can carry it routinely in my purse, for whatever
grabshots come my way -- that being my "esthetic"-- at least at the
moment), plus whenever I screw up the exposure, which is, um, always a
possibility, OK, just pop it into Photoshop and hocus-pocus it. But...
half of that stuff, ie., the digital, is over my head... It multiplies
faster than I do. So I suffer ongoing, not exactly "genius envy,"
And there seems a strong ambivalence about it generally -- like illicit
sex: We know that's not why the almighty made the list, but... it's on
folks' minds. Which is to say, do we have to outlaw list digital? I don't
(think I ever) want a digital print as my final product, well, not always,
unless, well, maybe a hybrid -- tho that's not this e-mail -- but knowing
the ways and means, possibilities and devices, for negatives, would surely
make everything else easier/better. I mean getting a decent negative from
gum in lith film was like patting your stomach and rubbing your head while
standing on a balloon while walking and chewing gum.
OK, enough... I had a comment on something else, which, on 2nd thought
calls for a separate message.
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