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My ten year anniversary on the list will be next
October. I can't believe I've known some of you that long. I went to
my first APIS conference that year and met a man named John Melanson, who was on
the list and told me about it. In fact, he was surprised I didn't know
about it, I suppose presuming anyone who would go to APIS would know about "the
list". He kept bugging me to join it and I finally did and the rest is history
as they say. I think I had at least several questions a week on the list. Well,
still do!
I was also on the infrared list for a while and the
black and white one, too, but one alt list is enough for me to
handle.
I also remember that APIS was at this college with
dorms, and John had brought his computer with him and was able to check email in
his room. I was really surprised that someone could bring a computer and
check email! It just didn't compute, literally, in my mind. I mean, I have
emailed since 95 but didn't travel with my desktop. Oh how times have
changed there, since I never travel without a laptop, and email is crucial to me
today.
Chris
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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:41
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Subject: RE: alt-photo anniversary in
2009
DEAR
GORD ET AL.,
I have been on this list since 1998 and it was, along with Judy’s WJPFP,
instrumental in helping me gain knowledge in many alt media. Living in
Barbados I am often the only
practitioner of some media (PT/PD) with just one or two others who have some
knowledge of Cyanotypes. Without this list and the amazing generosity
and sharing of so many of its members I would have had to travel to a
1st world country to take workshops…a rather expensive and time
consuming proposition.
Thanks again to Gord and all those who have helped me directly by replying to
my (sometimes foolish) questions and indirectly by posting their own questions
and replies.
CHEERS FROM BARBADOS!
BOB
From:
ender100 [mailto:ender100@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:49
AM
To:
alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: RE: alt-photo anniversary in
2009
Judy,
If it will make you feel any better over your "illicit
digital sex", put your 14.4 oz camera on a 20 lb tripod and set it up on the
streets of New
York. I am sure you will draw a crowd!
hehehehe
thanks for your
remembrances!
Best Wishes,
On Nov 19, 2008, at 10:35:20 PM, "Judy Seigel"
<jseigel@panix.com> wrote:
RE:
"Anniversary":
That's not why I'm writing, but I must mention that Greg
Schmitz, whom I'd
picked up
in the hall at Pratt, or maybe it was the other way around, told
me about the list, sent me to
Panix, and generally led the way. I was so
thrilled by the incredible list
info and the personalit(ies) -- then out
of Australia courtesy of Steve
Avery -- that I downloaded the entire
archive (from 1994 to 1997 [Mike
Ware, Steve Avery, Carson Graves, Allan
Janus, Luis Nadeau, Peter
Marshall, Bob Schramm, Bernie Boudreau, Henk
Thijs, and "photo Dave" (Dave
Soemarko), among others]) and printed it out
-- and still have the stack on
the shelf at my back as I write.
No, I didn't remember all those names,
just picked them up by checking a
page or two... And now I measure
the stack (regular typing-laser paper,
printed one side): As near as I
can measure, just shy of 4 inches (10
centimeters).
Among my
reactions to the list, most dramatic was that I'd been studying
furiously on my own, testing,
reading, experimenting, reading,
researching, and testing, for
several years, and -- given the givens and
the time, had learned (I thought)
quite a lot-- but I had the feeling
that, between the archive and the
ongoing discourse, one year on the list
doubled that info.
Of
course the cast of characters has changed, though some folks seem to
weave in and out... the tenor of
discourse is a lot like then -- mostly
good natured, warm, and
collegial, with the occasional, um, dust-up. But
there's been a shift in
content... now a lot of digital and inkjet. IMO
inevitably. I myself am NOT about
to give up my digital camera (weighs
just 14.4 ounces so I can carry
it routinely in my purse, for whatever
grabshots come my way -- that
being my "esthetic"-- at least at the
moment), plus whenever I screw up
the exposure, which is, um, always a
possibility, OK, just pop it into
Photoshop and hocus-pocus it. But...
half of that stuff, ie., the
digital, is over my head... It multiplies
faster than I do. So I suffer
ongoing, not exactly "genius envy," say,
digital-savvy envy.
And
there seems a strong ambivalence about it generally -- like illicit
sex: We know that's not why the
almighty made the list, but... it's on
folks' minds. Which is to say, do
we have to outlaw list digital? I don't
(think I ever) want a digital
print as my final product, well, not always,
unless, well, maybe a hybrid --
tho that's not this e-mail -- but knowing
the ways and means, possibilities
and devices, for negatives, would surely
make everything else
easier/better. I mean getting a decent negative from
gum in lith film was like patting
your stomach and rubbing your head while
standing on a balloon while
walking and chewing gum.
OK, enough... I had a comment on something
else, which, on 2nd thought
calls for a separate
message.
J.
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