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Re: re-clearing pt/pd



Dan,

I picked up this extended developer soak procedure from Stan Klimek a few years ago.

I find it helps in two ways: One, it makes subsequent clearing a little easier, albeit at the expense of some slightly green tinted developer, and two, it allows you to get that ever-so-subtle additional highest-of-the-highlights density that is sometimes so elusive. The way I figure it, there is no downside other than a slight risk of fogging if your work area has a lot of stray UV light bouncing around.

Clay
--- fdanb@aol.com wrote:

From: Dan Burkholder <fdanb@aol.com>
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: re-clearing pt/pd
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:49:30 -0500

Hi Jeremy,

How would you describe the difference between a minute or two in POx  
and the 5 minutes you mention? Do you get different results with  
different papers?

Thanks!

Dan

info@DanBurkholder.com
www.DanBurkholder.com

On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Jeremy Moore wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Have you tested your water's pH level? If it's basic you're going to
> make it very difficult to clear your prints. I do something similar to
> Matt:
>
> 5 minutes in 120F potassium oxalate, 5 minutes in citric acid, 5
> minutes each in 2 HCA baths. My highlights have ZERO yellow to them.
> You can cover a portion of the coated area with aluminum foil during
> the exposure and after processing the covered area should be paper
> white or you're having clearing issues.
>
> -Jeremy-
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Paul Viapiano  
> <viapiano@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Matt...
>>
>> I use a water rinse after development and 3 baths of citric acid.  
>> Maybe I'll
>> try some HCA as well...
>>
>> In the image itself, what color should 90-95% white be? Wouldn't  
>> that slight
>> wisp of tone be yellow-ish?
>>
>> So far, Platine is the only paper I've used for Pd printing, but I  
>> have a
>> bunch of Fab EW to try yet. The Fab EW was great for argyrotypes,  
>> after
>> acidifying of course. Also, so far, I have only used Amm Citrate as a
>> developer in temps from 80-90 degrees F.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Matthew Magruder
>> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: re-clearing pt/pd
>> ahh.  thank goodness it was only a test strip.
>> The long answer (at least my experience thus far)
>> Some papers lighter papers (cranes 90# cover, platinotype, arches  
>> platine,
>> and japanese papers) these can sometimes be "re"cleared after  
>> theyve been
>> washed and have dried.
>> But when it comes to thicker papers (Rives BFK, Fabriano Artistico  
>> and such)
>> those things seem to retain that yellow stain no matter how long  
>> you try to
>> "re"clear them.  In fact, I've tried it before with Fabriano  
>> Artistico and
>> during the "re"clearing the image actually started to bleach out in  
>> the Sod.
>> Sulfate and EDTA bath long before the yellow stain would go away.
>> Sometimes that residual Ferric Ox just clings on for dear life and  
>> won't let
>> up.
>> Side note, are you using only citric acid baths as clearing with  
>> platine?  2
>> or 3 baths?
>> My main procedure is the first bath is Citric Acid, 2nd and 3rd are  
>> HCA
>> baths (Sodium sulfate and metabisulfate)
>> part of that train of thought being that the more alkaline HCA  
>> baths can
>> help to bring the acid level of the paper/print more nuetral before  
>> throwing
>> it in the wash.
>> Just brainstorming of course.
>> Matt
>> On Dec 17, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>
>> Twas only a test strip but thought I'd ask...
>>
>> I was using Platine with citric acid clearing baths...
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Matthew Magruder
>> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: re-clearing pt/pd
>> Reprint the image Paul.
>> Likely be worth it in the long run.
>> matt
>>
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>
>> Hi all...
>>
>> Been quiet around here lately...
>>
>> Just wondering if you can re-clear a palladium print after it  
>> dries...in
>> case you see some yellow after drydown?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>