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Re: super high gloss inkjet paper?

Mmm. This thought, that inks of the K3 nature, might be different in other countries,
is something to think about. I'm not a fully experienced expert but from what I
understand, the inks were consistent. Now you make me wonder.
For a while, and Im not fully sure of this, now, either, there were primarily just a few
manufacturers of ink-jet papers. Mitsubishi being one. Various surfaces from various
retailers, had different 'emulsions' for the same paper, hence a need for ICC profiles.
But, below, my smart-a** comment was more to say that Etienne's comments were
made in regard to dyes and not pigments. The K3 stuff is pigmented, and, for me,
lies beautifully on the Kodak paper and the Kodak profile is excellent.
Again, however, my take was that the K3 inks were uniformly consistent. I will
check into this.
Jack F

On Apr 18, 2009, at 10:39 PM, EJ Photo wrote:

Jack, It may be that not all inks even within the same line are the same but
the papers maybe. Environmental issue can cause inks to have slight changes
in the make up and as such, an Epson K3 ink set sold in the US may not be
the same ink set sold in other parts of the world. So the question becomes
what else besides the printers' perception is at work here.


Eric Neilsen Photography

From: jefulton1 [mailto:jefulton1@comcast.net]

I'll totally refute Etienne's comments and say that w/the photo-black
K3 pigmented inks I have near perfect prints.
Jack F

On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:45 PM, etienne garbaux wrote:

Carmen wrote:

I am looking for a super shiny high gloss paper for the epson 7800
printer. I would like it to be as shiny as possible. What can you
All of the major suppliers make high-gloss inkjet paper.  I do quite
a lot of both color and B/W inkjet printing on high-gloss paper.
Interestingly, I have found that the various papers work VERY
differently with respect to (i) how much ink they need/will take;
(ii) how much gloss they retain after drying; (iii) how much the
surface gloss varies across the print after drying due to the
different amounts of ink in different places (some of them actually
look swollen in some areas after inking and drying, like the surface
of developed dye transfer matrix film); and (iv) how much (if any)
mottling they show with the ink you use.

All of my comments below apply to the use of DYE-based inks, *not*
PIGMENT-based inks (which do not work worth a tinker's dam with
glossy papers, IMO).

I got truly awful results with HP "Premium Photo Paper Glossy" and
even worse results with Kodak "Premium Picture Paper High Gloss" in
both Epson and Canon inkjet printers.