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Re: Gum over Cyanotypes



Hi Loris,

Thanks for the reply.

Another option is to try a higher gsm paper?

What paper are you using and what do u mean by "(HCl pre-soak to get
rid of the CaCO3 buffer + 5 water bath rinses to get rid of remaining
HCl and CaCl2)"
What is HCl and the rest mean?

Cheers,
Jacek



Quoting Loris Medici <mail@loris.medici.name>:

Hi David,

The 300gsm (140lb?) paper had stayed at least 45-50 minutes in room temp.
water (HCl pre-soak to get rid of the CaCO3 buffer + 5 water bath rinses
to get rid of remaining HCl and CaCl2) and dried before making the
cyanotype, doesn't that count for shrinkage? Does the water has to be
considerably warmer than room temp.?

Thinking again, my practice of cyanotype is to completely/thoroughly force
dry the paper with a hair dryer before exposure (to be safe from humidity
fluctuations / which have a very pronounced effect on cyanotype), maybe
that's the problem...

Regards,
Loris.


28 Nisan 2009, Salı, 11:17 am tarihinde, davidhatton@totalise.co.uk yazmış:

 Hi Loris,
 Give the paper a good long soak in warm water before you print any layers
at all. That&#39;s what I do and shrinkage is minimal on the print sizes
I produce
 Regards
 David

 On Apr 28 2009, Loris Medici wrote:

 I did few gum over cyanotypes recently and I happen to like them much.
See
 the most recent one below here: http://dwarfurl.com/008fa

 The print is on HCl acidified (2 minutes in 2.5%) Fabriano Artistico EW.
 One -1/3 stop exposed cyanotype layer + 3 gum layers. (1. PR206 5% AD
+1/3
 stop exposure, 2. PV19 Rose + PBk9 5% AD normal exposure, 3. PBk9 2% AD
 +1/3 stop exposure.)

 I print the Cyanotype on unsized paper, then size with 3% gelatin. After
 sizing, the paper change dimensions and you can&#39;t register the
negative
 perfectly on the first gum pass - 2mm larger in both horizontal and
 vertical orientations (print size 10x6.6&quot;), the registration gets
perfect
 only in the second or third gum pass. (See the resulting blur at the
right
 edge in the middle.)

 My question is: How do you manage to get perfect registration for gum
over
 layers?

 Any tips and tricks would be highly appreciated.

 Regards,
 Loris.

 P.S. I have read Lukas Werth&#39;s method somewhere else: Affix the paper
on
 dimensionally stable support - such as an aluminum sheet - with gelatin,
 print, varnish the print (acrylic binder + mineral spirit) to
&quot;protect&quot;
 the gum layer and then put the print in warm water (this is where you
need
 &quot;protection&quot;!) to melt the gelatin and release the print from
the support.
 I would like to hear about any suitable varnish that can be used for this
 purpose too...