Re: Gum over Cyanotypes
Maybe heavier paper will do but the print is pretty small 10x6.6" to
consider thick/heavy paper and those are very expensive to me (= special
order, they don't stock HP 600gsm - only CP 600gsm, and I don't like CP
texture).
The paper is Fabriano Artistico EW HP 300gsm...
This paper is a highly alkaline buffered paper, w/o acid pre-treatment you
can't make it work "satisfactorily" for cyanotypes (or any other iron
process). So I put it in very dilute hydrochloric acid (HCl) to completely
dissolve the calcium carbonate (CaCO3) buffer before making the cyanotype.
Regards,
Loris.
28 Nisan 2009, Salı, 11:41 am tarihinde, Jacek Gonsalves yazmış:
> Hi Loris,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Another option is to try a higher gsm paper?
>
> What paper are you using and what do u mean by "(HCl pre-soak to get
> rid of the CaCO3 buffer + 5 water bath rinses to get rid of remaining
> HCl and CaCl2)"
> What is HCl and the rest mean?
>
> Cheers,
> Jacek
>
>
>
> Quoting Loris Medici <mail@loris.medici.name>:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> The 300gsm (140lb?) paper had stayed at least 45-50 minutes in room
>> temp.
>> water (HCl pre-soak to get rid of the CaCO3 buffer + 5 water bath rinses
>> to get rid of remaining HCl and CaCl2) and dried before making the
>> cyanotype, doesn't that count for shrinkage? Does the water has to be
>> considerably warmer than room temp.?
>>
>> Thinking again, my practice of cyanotype is to completely/thoroughly
>> force
>> dry the paper with a hair dryer before exposure (to be safe from
>> humidity
>> fluctuations / which have a very pronounced effect on cyanotype), maybe
>> that's the problem...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Loris.
>>
>>
>> 28 Nisan 2009, Salı, 11:17 am tarihinde, davidhatton@totalise.co.uk
>> yazmı�:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Loris,
>>> Give the paper a good long soak in warm water before you print any
>>> layers
>>> at all. That's what I do and shrinkage is minimal on the print
>>> sizes
>>> I produce
>>> Regards
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Apr 28 2009, Loris Medici wrote:
>>>
>>> I did few gum over cyanotypes recently and I happen to like them much.
>>> See
>>> the most recent one below here: http://dwarfurl.com/008fa
>>>
>>> The print is on HCl acidified (2 minutes in 2.5%) Fabriano Artistico
>>> EW.
>>> One -1/3 stop exposed cyanotype layer + 3 gum layers. (1. PR206 5% AD
>>> +1/3
>>> stop exposure, 2. PV19 Rose + PBk9 5% AD normal exposure, 3. PBk9 2%
>>> AD
>>> +1/3 stop exposure.)
>>>
>>> I print the Cyanotype on unsized paper, then size with 3% gelatin.
>>> After
>>> sizing, the paper change dimensions and you can't register the
>>> negative
>>> perfectly on the first gum pass - 2mm larger in both horizontal and
>>> vertical orientations (print size 10x6.6"), the registration gets
>>> perfect
>>> only in the second or third gum pass. (See the resulting blur at the
>>> right
>>> edge in the middle.)
>>>
>>> My question is: How do you manage to get perfect registration for gum
>>> over
>>> layers?
>>>
>>> Any tips and tricks would be highly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Loris.
>>>
>>> P.S. I have read Lukas Werth's method somewhere else: Affix the
>>> paper
>>> on
>>> dimensionally stable support - such as an aluminum sheet - with
>>> gelatin,
>>> print, varnish the print (acrylic binder + mineral spirit) to
>>> "protect"
>>> the gum layer and then put the print in warm water (this is where you
>>> need
>>> "protection"!) to melt the gelatin and release the print
>>> from
>>> the support.
>>> I would like to hear about any suitable varnish that can be used for
>>> this
>>> purpose too...
>>
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