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Re: I should have bought an Epsom but...

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  • Subject: Re: I should have bought an Epsom but...
  • From: Jean Daubas <jean.daubas@gmail.com>
  • Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:21:47 +0200
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Hi Hellena !
I cannot directly reply to your question since my HP B9180 uses 8 different Vivera ink cartridges.
I looked at your printer manual on line to read what they say about the choice of inks combination
you will find info at page 28 /154 of the pdf manual; in England, you are considered as Zone 2 for the compatibility of cartridges.
If I were you, what i would do would be to make some tests with different combinations, using the test page functiunalities; see
If you make these tests on your transparent substrate, you will be in capacity to analyze the way the different inks settle on your film and to compare the opacity of various combinations.
Before doing these comparisons, do not forget that for producing good digital negatives on transparent film, you will have to choose probably a glossy photo surface as the printer media type setting. On my Hp 9180, i use  the  following setting : HP advanced paper , Glossy.
I do not know which method of producing diginegs you are using; I use the PDN system from Mark Nelson and in fact, opacity of black inks is not really an issue since the calibration tests are founded on UV blocking colored inks and negatives are "color negatives" ( different colours according to each alt process)
Hope it may help you,
Bon courage, Hellena,
Cheers from france
Jean Daubas, auteur-photographe
16 rue de Bourg-Sec
25440 LIESLE    (France)
+33 (0)3 81 57 50 13   et +33 (0) 681 531 289
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: I should have bought an Epsom but...

Thank you for the information. My printer uses 3 types of ink sets. The first combination is Tricolor + Black, second is  Tricolor + Photo Grey and the third is  Tricolor + Photo. Which ones are you using? Hellena
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: I should have bought an Epsom but...

Hi Hellena
I've looked around about the HP Pro B8350 and I've read that you have choice of different HP inks. It seems that your printer can use the VIVERA HP inkset.
I can tell you that these inks are absolutely excellent : I use them for all my work (colour printing, B&W printing, digi negs) with my HP Pro B9180 and I obtain good results; last week-end, I led a "making Digitral Negatives" workshop and all participants got excellent results using the printer + Vivera inks.  And i'm sure that you may also change the  printer settings (somewhere in advanced options) to increase the level of inking if you really neeed it.
Bon courage
Cheers from france
Jean Daubas
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:48 AM
Subject: I should have bought an Epsom but...

I didn't-  but the decision I made has been a false economy. I bought an HP Photosmart Pro B8350 and the problem is that I cannot get a decent black on transparencies. I do not even get a decent black when inverting canvas size. Does anyone have any suggestions as how to solve this problem or shall I just bite the bullet and get an Epsom? Oh for the return of the 1290. Any suggestions as to which printer bearing in mind cost considerations and the fact that I don't work larger than A3 plus. All help will be greatly  appreciated. Hellena