Re: VDB Color
KRST = Kodak Rapid Selenium Toner
Gold/thiourea shifts the color towards a deep violet color. More
neutral, but I wouldn't call it black.
Joe
On Aug 10, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Joao Ribeiro Globo wrote:
Hi Joe,
Thanks for the link.
What's KRST?
Gold toners, I noticed, make the print black isn't it?
Cheers,
Joao
On 10/08/2009, at 14:54, Joseph Smigiel wrote:
You might find this set of tests I did a few years back useful:
http://my.net-link.net/~jsmigiel/images/technical/toners/
vdb_test_11.28.05.jpg
As Don relates, the thiourea/gold toner is particularly good in
terms of effect and cost. I use Clerc's gold toner formula which
can also be found on the unblinkingeye.com site in Wynn White's
VDB article.
IMHO, selenium toner is a poor choice for VDB and if used, must be
diluted on the order of 1+500 or more.
Joe
On Aug 10, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Loris Medici wrote:
Drop the selenium idea, if you're going to use ready made
selenium toners
which incorporate ammonium thiosulfate that is... Best toners for
VDB are
gold, platinum or palladium toners.
See Sandy Kings Kallitype article here for gold and/or pt/pd
toners for
Kallitype (and Vandyke) here:
http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Kallitype/kallitype.html (see
page 2) Gold
Toner #2 (gold-thiourea) is particularly good in terms of results
and
expense.
Regards,
Loris.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joao Ribeiro Globo [mailto:ribeiro.joao@globo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:39 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: VDB Color
Don and Francis,
Thank you for your answers.
The fixer was too strong as it bleached part of the highlight tones.
I corrected it and I'm getting more consistent results.
Can I tone VDBs with selenium?
If yes, what would be the proper dilution and what colors should
I expect?
As for gold toners, I need a good formula.
Does anyone have it?
What colors expect?
Thanks again,
Joao
Joao Ribeiro
jr@joaoribeiro.com
(11) 9607-2106
www.joaoribeiro.com
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