RE: black fingernails, et al, was Re: Paper - baby oil Digi Negs
I do not know much about Imigene Cunningham and her relation to botany, but I knew Morley Baer very well. Morley was an architectural photographer who had a rough time making a living because, at the time, religious prejudice was rampant. Joachim -----Original Message----- From: Judy Seigel [mailto:jseigel@panix.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:10 PM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Re: black fingernails, et al, was Re: Paper - baby oil Digi Negs On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, SteveS wrote: > Don't understand this, and all the time I thought you were senior in this > game, Judy :) > > Imogene Cunningham was a chemist, majored in the university including the > Sorbone, minor in boteny (hense the flower pics); Stichen commanded piro into > the military where he did the chemistry on board ship . . . Morley Baer was > one of his supbordinates; and Stlieglitz was one of the labratory pioneers of > color processes. Listen Steve S., if yr gonna lecture me on details of history, could you kindly try to get it right? I mean.... boteny !!! (yuck !!) hense !! Ow, ow ow !! Stichen !!! Oh dear lord ! Sorbone... some kind of disease, with backaches? supbordinates : ouch ouch ouch (unless that's a new kind of drink???) piro: What's that... a California dance? > Where you been girl? Library's down to the left and uptown 'bout a dozen > blocks. Oh my dear boy, if yr telling me 'bout "the library uptown 'bout a dozen blocks" -- I don't know what kind of library they have in podunk, but if you mean the NY Public Library, that's more than 40 blocks, or 2 miles, uptown from here and east about 4 avenue blocks -- equal to 12 street blocks. But anyway, so what? You have both a dictionary for spelling regular words & a photo history for spelling Steichen, et al, half a room or 10 steps away. For all the good it did you. Also, my dear, one of the reasons I know so much is that I can prioritize. I'd never been in a darkroom before I was 48 years old, but before then knew (from reading, among other activities) how to spell "hence," a few facts and blessings of "botany," and that not even I could pronounce "Stlieglitz." I daresay I've read the bios of lots of photogs, including Cunningham, who sat her hubby (or was it her son?) on a cake of ice (a provocative thought either way), tho the fact that Cunningham was a chemist seens irrelevant. In fact I'd guess that chemists did NOT believe that real men put their naked hands in the soup: They knew better. PS. One of my best early works in photography was a solarized dye transfer of a bouquet of flowers... Did I have to know their brand names? So call them asters. love & kisses, Judy > S. Shapiro > > PS > Cunningham printed for Curtis . . . those orotypes of Indians. She > inspired/invented the curtistype of brass instead of gold . > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com> > To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:38 AM > Subject: Re: black fingernails, et al, was Re: Paper - baby oil Digi Negs > > >> >> What I'm wondering is.... did folks like Stieglitz, Steichen and Imogene >> Cunningham do their own darkroom work? I'm also thinking fame may have >> been more likely for those with a long life... they not only lived to do >> their "mature work," they were around to hustle it. (I also know folks who >> printed for famous photographers, for instance, for Helen Levitt-- and >> where the printing process isn't part of the image [as in "alt" & maybe >> sometimes even then], I'd count that a consumation devoutly to be wished.) >> >> Meanwhile, the only name that came to mind right off for early death was >> Gary Winogrand (and that only because photography's best sneerer, AD >> Coleman, sneered at him in one of his books for having left -- hundreds? >> thousands? -- of rolls of exposed film unexamined at his death)... >> Winogrand was 56. >> >> In any event, I doubt that the figure about increased cancer among >> photographers was baseless... Tho now that I think of it, a friend of mine >> took David Vestal's class in fine printing at Pratt.... I'll check with her >> about his stand on hands-in ... & also check his books to see if there's a >> caveat. >> >> I also point out that I never in my life had a sign of allergy of *any* >> kind -- not hay fever, not ragweed, not bee stings, let alone bananas and >> chocolate that torture me today (sob!). I suppose, therefore, that it was >> the years of intimate contact with turpentine in a closed room that brought >> it on... I also note that in a painting class in those days (maybe still >> today ?) before acrylics, each student had a butcher tray of oil paints >> squeezed out and mixed in the center, that is, about 25 trays sloshing with >> turpentine in a closed classroom.. Any "fine art" student was likely to >> have had several such classes, as did I. >> >> cheers, >> >> Judy >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Joseph Smigiel wrote: >> >>> Imogen Cunningham at 93 died the same day as Minor White on June 24, >>> 1976. Perhaps Imogen used tongs. >>> >>> Joe >> >> >> > > >
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