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RE: haunted VDB

For a fixer free selenium toner see:


Beware that Se is toxic, only do this when you know what you are doing
and have the right equipment

On gold: when economy goes down people start to buy gold, the gold price
has increases considerably


-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Seigel [mailto:jseigel@panix.com] 
Sent: vrijdag 2 oktober 2009 4:07
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: RE: haunted VDB

I'm wondering if that plastic sleeve the print was stored in was
you'd used before... There are plastics that simply destroy photographs.
remember many years ago my mother put all her family photographs in an 
album with pages in plastic sleeves, for her grandchildren... by the
we actually inherited it, just a few years later, the degradation of the

prints was striking -- tho these were color photos and the chemistry is 
obviously different. However, I had some of the same photographs, stored

in paper or under glass, so I could measure how much hers had faded in 
that relatively brief time. (If I'd been trying to fade them I couldn't 
have done better.)

As for as selenium toner is concerned, if you can get your hands on some

selenium, that is, the plain chemical itself, you can mix up a selenium 
toner without the fixer.  I don't remember where I got my selenium
28 years ago), tho of course in those days sale of chemicals was much
loosey goosey than today... it was also expensive -- but ounce for ounce

of the working solution not all that terrible.. and MUCH more flexible 
than KRS. (I never did understand why they put it in fixer-- tho that's 
not this e-mail.)

The old photo books or formularies should have the formula for selenium 
toner, or I could probably dig up that old one.  However, I'm wondering 
what's wrong with just plain gold toner??  (Is this a good or bad time
buy gold chloride ? -- I don't follow that nowadays, since gum bi just 
shrugs off gold. But if memory serves, when the market is down, so is 
gold? Whichever, per print toned it's not so horrendous.  (You only tone

the successes.) Also, as I recall (tho I haven't used it lately) the
is lovely.

Not to mention -- have you noticed galleries stressing the "gold" in 
"gold-toned prints"?  (Sounds so much better than "selenium toned.")