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Re: haunted GUM (update)
 
 
thanks again, 
actually it's still not certain whether it's the dichromate or something 
else. but it is the most likely reason, since all the other ingredients 
worked for me earlier. it's also possible that the pot-di is somehow bad 
quality, since this is from a new batch, which i bought a few months ago. 
it's also possible that my gum is rotten (smells/ looks fine though). i 
just mixed up a new mix, i will print with it as soon as it's completely 
dissolved. next step will be trying a different paper.
 
regards 
phritz
 
Katharine Thayer schrieb:
 Okay, I'm going to backpedal a little here:
On Oct 7, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Katharine Thayer wrote:
 phritz, there's no reason why changing to potassium dichromate from 
ammonium dichromate should cause tonal inversion, as long as you're 
adjusting the exposure to accommodate the difference in sensitivity.  
It's the dichromate ion that participates in the reaction that 
hardens the gum, and that doesn't change;
 In general and for most practical purposes, the dichromates are 
considered roughly equivalent at somewhat equal concentrations, with 
some wiggle room; the exactly equivalent concentrations aren't exactly 
the same concentration in the two dichromates, but close enough that 
it doesn't matter for this discussion.  However, I was technically 
incorrect in saying that only the dichromate iion is involved in the 
crosslinking and so the reaction is the same whichever dichromate you 
use.  Fairly recent research published research on the crosslinking of 
PVA, validated by a chemist I was working with a few years ago,  
demonstrated  that the crosslinking is actually different for the two 
compounds, at least for PVA;   the crosslinking for the ammonium 
dichromate involves the N in the ammonium ion as well as the Cr in the 
dichromate ion.
 
 I don't have any idea whether, much less how, that difference in 
crosslinking might affect the production of a tonal inversion;  all 
I'm saying here is that my first statement that there isn't any reason 
why changing dichromates would produce tonal inversions was stated 
with more confidence than was warranted.  The fact is that I really 
can't say with any certainty that the dichromate you use does or 
doesn't affect tonal inversion.
 
 
 
 
 
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