RE: New home for list needed-a Case for Google/Yahoo
I did the same in Google Groups. It serves as a placeholder currently, we can use it later in case we decide to migrate to Google Groups... http://groups.google.com/group/alt-photo-process-l The group is hidden/private and subscriptions aren't open (but authorized). To join, you'll need to register your mail address (doesn't have to be a gmail address) to Google Groups by means of creating a Google Account for the corresponding mail address. (You may already have a Google Account if you have a YouTube and/or Gmail account and opening one isn't hard and you don't have to disclose much personal information.) Anyway, as I said before it's there as a placeholder, for probable future use... Regards, Loris. -----Original Message----- From: Don Bryant [mailto:donsbryant@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:26 PM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: RE: New home for list needed-a Case for Google/Yahoo Keith, I've created a Yahoo group as an alternative to the current list just in case the list goes down unexpectedly. Here are the pertinent addresses in case anyone desires to take advantage of this Yahoo group. Post message: alternative_photography@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: alternative_photography-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: alternative_photography-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: alternative_photography-owner@yahoogroups.com Just to be clear: This isn't an attempt to hijack the list, just an alternative if the current list goes down until another solution is discovered. Best regards to everyone, Don Bryant ________________________________________ From: Keith Gerling [mailto:keith.gerling@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:46 PM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Re: New home for list needed-a Case for Google/Yahoo Mark, if it that easy, I suggest you go start a Google group and announce the how-to-join stuff here. I bet we can have a group up and running by the end of the day. You can deal with the list-minder stuff later... Keith 2009/11/11 ender100 <ender100@aol.com> (J There has been some good discussion regarding moving the list. I appreciate the kind offers from various folks to host the list, but I would like to make a case and propose a simple model for moving the list to either Yahoo Groups or Google Groups. I think either of these would work very well for the list and perhaps from what Loris has said, it sounds like Google Groups might have the edge in terms of features. 1. Google & Yahoo are both free. 2. Both offer a lot of features $BMQ (Perhaps Google has the edge here. Many people on the alt photo list have been asking for more features for years. 3. Large servers like Yahoo & Google are more reliable and not dependent on one individual with one computer and one host $BMU (Joo many links in the chain that can break. 4. The list could be started immediately on either. 5. You can have multiple "list minders" 6. You have easy security options that can eliminate spam. 7. You can temporarily deactivate a member if they are sending "out of office auto responses" when on vacation with their secretary. 8. You can remove someone from the list if they misbehave. 9. You can make it a private list so that: a: you can show nudes without being categorized as an "adult list" b: a private list lets you screen out spammers 10. You can temporarily deactivate a member if their computer gets hacked or gets a virus that causes them to send spam to the list. 11. You can have more than one list owner for redundancy. 12. I think the half-life of a group started on Yahoo or Google is likely to be greater than one started on a private server. I would suggest that we ask for 3 volunteers to start up the group as "list owners" and post the information for joining on this list so everyone can migrate over smoothly. By having three members, you could have an agreement that it requires approval of two of the "list owners" to remove someone from the list. Most of you remember situations in the past where this had to be done, though it has been a rare. If one of the three list minders wishes to retire or becomes unable to participate, that person can easily be replaced. By the way, how are we going to come to a consensus regarding what to do? I think there are 500-600 people subscribing to this list and only a handful have made suggestions. Just a thought. -- Best Wishes, Mark Nelson Precision Digital Negatives (B (J (B (J PDNPrint (B (JForum @ Yahoo Groups Mark Nelson Photography (B
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