[alt-photo] Re: Alt-photo-process-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1
Susan Huber
shuber1 at telus.net
Tue Dec 29 01:57:59 GMT 2009
Hi everyone,
I am receiving the mail- is ok?
I think that it depends on how much brush marks that are either too close to the paper's edge and then cropping closer onto the coated area might be prettier but to make a point, leaving brush marks sure sets the image apart from all the digital prints that are out "there".
BTW, anyone know how to make salted prints? Would appreciate some help.
Thanks,
Susan
On 2009-12-27, at 6:13 PM, alt-photo-process-list-request at lists.altphotolist.org wrote:
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> 1. How do you reproduce your work? (sam wang)
> 2. Re: How do you reproduce your work? (ender100)
> 3. Re: How do you reproduce your work? (sam wang)
> 4. Re: How do you reproduce your work? (ender100)
> 5. Re: How do you reproduce your work? (Jim Larimer)
> 6. Re: How do you reproduce your work? (Bob Barnes)
> 7. Re: How do you reproduce your work? (ender100)
> 8. Re: How do you reproduce your work? (Bob Barnes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:42:07 +0800
> From: sam wang <samwang864 at gmail.com>
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] How do you reproduce your work?
> Message-ID: <F9BA6263-2394-42FA-8194-5B6C540801DA at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Wow. The list is so quiet.
>
> My posts didn't seem to have shown up, so maybe there are still hiccups.
>
> Anyhow, let me see if anyone might like to respond, in case this
> message does reach the list: in publications, how do you like to show
> your alt work? That is, other than accuracy of colors etc, how do you
> treat the paper outside of the image area? Would you crop it all out
> or would you leave a faint paper color and texture?
>
> I know it's something to be determined on a case by case basis, but is
> there a general feeling that for hand coated alt processes, only the
> coated area is important, or how about the way the coated area sits on
> the paper surface? The question can be important especially when the
> highlights are more of the color of the paper itself, and when the
> paper is not very white to begin with.
>
> How about some discussions?
>
> Sam Wang
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:15:32 -0600
> From: ender100 <ender100 at aol.com>
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: How do you reproduce your work?
> Message-ID: <6D777698.F909.4A63.8BF5.0C0FDA3C9D55 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>
> This came through ok Sam!
> --
> Best Wishes,
>
> Mark Nelson
> Precision Digital Negatives
> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>
> Mark Nelson Photography
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:42:07 PM, "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [alt-photo] How do you reproduce your work?
> Date: December 27, 2009 6:42:07 PM CST
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Wow. The list is so quiet.
>
> My posts didn't seem to have shown up, so maybe there are still
> hiccups.
>
> Anyhow, let me see if anyone might like to respond, in case this
> message does reach the list: in publications, how do you like to show
> your alt work? That is, other than accuracy of colors etc, how do you
> treat the paper outside of the image area? Would you crop it all out
> or would you leave a faint paper color and texture?
>
> I know it's something to be determined on a case by case basis, but is
> there a general feeling that for hand coated alt processes, only the
> coated area is important, or how about the way the coated area sits on
> the paper surface? The question can be important especially when the
> highlights are more of the color of the paper itself, and when the
> paper is not very white to begin with.
>
> How about some discussions?
>
> Sam Wang
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:34:20 +0800
> From: sam wang <samwang864 at gmail.com>
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: How do you reproduce your work?
> Message-ID: <720DD922-15A9-4E14-B242-5938CAB66635 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Thanks Mark! I'm glad it did.
>
> But it's not showing up on mine.
>
> Sam
>
> On Dec 28, 2009, at 9:15 AM, ender100 wrote:
>
>> This came through ok Sam!
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>>
>> Mark Nelson
>> Precision Digital Negatives
>> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>>
>> Mark Nelson Photography
>>
>>
>> On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:42:07 PM, "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> From: "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [alt-photo] How do you reproduce your work?
>> Date: December 27, 2009 6:42:07 PM CST
>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>> Wow. The list is so quiet.
>>
>> My posts didn't seem to have shown up, so maybe there are still
>> hiccups.
>>
>> Anyhow, let me see if anyone might like to respond, in case this
>> message does reach the list: in publications, how do you like to show
>> your alt work? That is, other than accuracy of colors etc, how do you
>> treat the paper outside of the image area? Would you crop it all out
>> or would you leave a faint paper color and texture?
>>
>> I know it's something to be determined on a case by case basis, but is
>> there a general feeling that for hand coated alt processes, only the
>> coated area is important, or how about the way the coated area sits on
>> the paper surface? The question can be important especially when the
>> highlights are more of the color of the paper itself, and when the
>> paper is not very white to begin with.
>>
>> How about some discussions?
>>
>> Sam Wang
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:39:26 -0600
> From: ender100 <ender100 at aol.com>
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: How do you reproduce your work?
> Message-ID: <A047CAF3.37A4.41F9.B328.5E2DA0AA0897 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>
> It will appear in a fortune cookie sometime in the near future
> someplace in China.
> --
> Best Wishes,
>
> Mark Nelson
> Precision Digital Negatives
> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>
> Mark Nelson Photography
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2009, at 7:34:20 PM, "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Mark! I'm glad it did.
>
> But it's not showing up on mine.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:44:36 -0700
> From: Jim Larimer <jrlarimer at gmail.com>
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: How do you reproduce your work?
> Message-ID:
> <770d34170912271744q259f6009n9ddfae91f01d54b1 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> This came through just fine for me, Sam. To answer your question, I like to
> mat my gum bichromates with the irregular edges showing. This is a way to
> "show off" the process and give subtle hints of how the image was produced.
> For gumoils, I use the mat to crop the image with no borders or paper
> showing.
> Jim L
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:34 PM, sam wang <samwang864 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark! I'm glad it did.
>>
>> But it's not showing up on mine.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2009, at 9:15 AM, ender100 wrote:
>>
>> This came through ok Sam!
>>> --
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>> Mark Nelson
>>> Precision Digital Negatives
>>> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>>>
>>> Mark Nelson Photography
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:42:07 PM, "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [alt-photo] How do you reproduce your work?
>>> Date: December 27, 2009 6:42:07 PM CST
>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>> Wow. The list is so quiet.
>>>
>>> My posts didn't seem to have shown up, so maybe there are still hiccups.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, let me see if anyone might like to respond, in case this
>>> message does reach the list: in publications, how do you like to show
>>> your alt work? That is, other than accuracy of colors etc, how do you
>>> treat the paper outside of the image area? Would you crop it all out
>>> or would you leave a faint paper color and texture?
>>>
>>> I know it's something to be determined on a case by case basis, but is
>>> there a general feeling that for hand coated alt processes, only the
>>> coated area is important, or how about the way the coated area sits on
>>> the paper surface? The question can be important especially when the
>>> highlights are more of the color of the paper itself, and when the
>>> paper is not very white to begin with.
>>>
>>> How about some discussions?
>>>
>>> Sam Wang
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:09:53 -0600
> From: Bob Barnes <bb333 at earthlink.net>
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: How do you reproduce your work?
> Message-ID: <B527C3B3-C5B8-4B06-9E86-2A1A9AE88250 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Sounds like firewall problems!
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2009, at 7:34 PM, sam wang wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark! I'm glad it did.
>>
>> But it's not showing up on mine.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2009, at 9:15 AM, ender100 wrote:
>>
>>> This came through ok Sam!
>>> --
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>> Mark Nelson
>>> Precision Digital Negatives
>>> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>>>
>>> Mark Nelson Photography
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:42:07 PM, "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [alt-photo] How do you reproduce your work?
>>> Date: December 27, 2009 6:42:07 PM CST
>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>> Wow. The list is so quiet.
>>>
>>> My posts didn't seem to have shown up, so maybe there are still
>>> hiccups.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, let me see if anyone might like to respond, in case this
>>> message does reach the list: in publications, how do you like to show
>>> your alt work? That is, other than accuracy of colors etc, how do you
>>> treat the paper outside of the image area? Would you crop it all out
>>> or would you leave a faint paper color and texture?
>>>
>>> I know it's something to be determined on a case by case basis,
>>> but is
>>> there a general feeling that for hand coated alt processes, only the
>>> coated area is important, or how about the way the coated area
>>> sits on
>>> the paper surface? The question can be important especially when the
>>> highlights are more of the color of the paper itself, and when the
>>> paper is not very white to begin with.
>>>
>>> How about some discussions?
>>>
>>> Sam Wang
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:11:39 -0600
> From: ender100 <ender100 at aol.com>
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: How do you reproduce your work?
> Message-ID: <6BF96F01.42CE.4C44.A52E.ED4F46690CA7 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>
> Probably the Great Fire Wall of China.....
> --
> Best Wishes,
>
> Mark Nelson
> Precision Digital Negatives
> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>
> Mark Nelson Photography
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2009, at 8:09:53 PM, "Bob Barnes" <bb333 at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> From: "Bob Barnes" <bb333 at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: How do you reproduce your work?
> Date: December 27, 2009 8:09:53 PM CST
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Sounds like firewall problems!
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2009, at 7:34 PM, sam wang wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark! I'm glad it did.
>>
>> But it's not showing up on mine.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2009, at 9:15 AM, ender100 wrote:
>>
>>> This came through ok Sam!
>>> --
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>> Mark Nelson
>>> Precision Digital Negatives
>>> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>>>
>>> Mark Nelson Photography
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:42:07 PM, "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [alt-photo] How do you reproduce your work?
>>> Date: December 27, 2009 6:42:07 PM CST
>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>> Wow. The list is so quiet.
>>>
>>> My posts didn't seem to have shown up, so maybe there are still
>>> hiccups.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, let me see if anyone might like to respond, in case this
>>> message does reach the list: in publications, how do you like to show
>>> your alt work? That is, other than accuracy of colors etc, how do you
>>> treat the paper outside of the image area? Would you crop it all out
>>> or would you leave a faint paper color and texture?
>>>
>>> I know it's something to be determined on a case by case basis,
>>> but is
>>> there a general feeling that for hand coated alt processes, only the
>>> coated area is important, or how about the way the coated area
>>> sits on
>>> the paper surface? The question can be important especially when the
>>> highlights are more of the color of the paper itself, and when the
>>> paper is not very white to begin with.
>>>
>>> How about some discussions?
>>>
>>> Sam Wang
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:12:46 -0600
> From: Bob Barnes <bb333 at earthlink.net>
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: How do you reproduce your work?
> Message-ID: <A3C8F6BD-BE7B-4534-8CD6-C0BA6A65B559 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> I knew it!
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2009, at 8:11 PM, ender100 wrote:
>
>> Probably the Great Fire Wall of China.....
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>>
>> Mark Nelson
>> Precision Digital Negatives
>> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>>
>> Mark Nelson Photography
>>
>>
>> On Dec 27, 2009, at 8:09:53 PM, "Bob Barnes" <bb333 at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> From: "Bob Barnes" <bb333 at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: How do you reproduce your work?
>> Date: December 27, 2009 8:09:53 PM CST
>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>> Sounds like firewall problems!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 27, 2009, at 7:34 PM, sam wang wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Mark! I'm glad it did.
>>> But it's not showing up on mine.
>>> Sam
>>> On Dec 28, 2009, at 9:15 AM, ender100 wrote:
>>>> This came through ok Sam!
>>>> --
>>>> Best Wishes,
>>>> Mark Nelson
>>>> Precision Digital Negatives
>>>> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>>>> Mark Nelson Photography
>>>> On Dec 27, 2009, at 6:42:07 PM, "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> From: "sam wang" <samwang864 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [alt-photo] How do you reproduce your work?
>>>> Date: December 27, 2009 6:42:07 PM CST
>>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>>> Wow. The list is so quiet.
>>>> My posts didn't seem to have shown up, so maybe there are still
>>>> hiccups.
>>>> Anyhow, let me see if anyone might like to respond, in case this
>>>> message does reach the list: in publications, how do you like to
>>>> show
>>>> your alt work? That is, other than accuracy of colors etc, how do
>>>> you
>>>> treat the paper outside of the image area? Would you crop it all out
>>>> or would you leave a faint paper color and texture?
>>>> I know it's something to be determined on a case by case basis,
>>>> but is
>>>> there a general feeling that for hand coated alt processes, only the
>>>> coated area is important, or how about the way the coated area
>>>> sits on
>>>> the paper surface? The question can be important especially when the
>>>> highlights are more of the color of the paper itself, and when the
>>>> paper is not very white to begin with.
>>>> How about some discussions?
>>>> Sam Wang
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Alt-photo-process-list | http://altphotolist.org/listinfo
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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