[alt-photo] Re: ICC for Pictorico

[david drake]

Kerik and Marek

I would be most appreciative if you could post info on your curves.
I've been doing platinum toned kallitypes on a 3800 on platine paper  
using matt black and getting obvious grain. I had C, M, Y matching K   
and LC, LM matching LK. With boost up more than double C, M, Y, K.
I did try using photo black but wasn't getting nearly enough density.
  I'm thinking  now of trying the photo black again and adjusting my  
color's down to 4 except for yellow (keeping it up to 12 or 15).
I would be very interested in seeing your curve profiles. How much  
yellow are you using Marek?

david



On 26-Apr-10, at 9:04 PM, Marek Matusz wrote:

>
> I use photo black as well (in addition to yellow). Plenty of  
> density. My observation with matte black on 3800 was that it was  
> easily scratched on a cheap transparency that I use for gum.
> Marek
>> From: kerik at kerik.com
>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:16:44 -0700
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: ICC for Pictorico
>>
>> I've definitely gotten grainy negs for pt/pd using matte black with  
>> an Epson
>> 3800. With Quadtone RIP you can generate plenty of UV density with  
>> photo
>> black and without having to rely on a highly colorized negative  
>> that can
>> also cause graininess.
>>
>> Kerik
>> www.kerik.com
>>
>>
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>>> I use matte black for my diginegs and am very happy with it,
>>> but many say that they get grainy negs with it...
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>>> With Epsons (at least the models that use K3 inkset) the
>>> Matte Black is
>>> better UV blocker than Photo Black (that is one of the
>>> reasons why I had to
>>> rebuild all my curves made for Photo Black) -- I have noticed
>>> the same is
>>> true with the 1800 also...
>>>
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