[alt-photo] an apology and a plea for stewardship

[Paul Viapiano]

Eric,

Yes, you're correct that I should talk to Mike to confirm or deny Judy's 
description, since it was second-hand, at best. In the interest of lively 
discussion, in which this list is at its best, my comment which may have 
been a quite normal outburst at a live gathering, may have seemed too harsh 
in the written context, especially one that is archived.

My sincere apologies to him for my off-hand remark here yesterday.

I will also offer my apology to him forthwith in a reply to his email, which 
arrived this morning.

I will say this: I am passionate about the responsibility of chemical users, 
be they amateurs or professionals, to do the right thing regardless of what 
levels others may deem safe for disposal in a public sewer, waterway or 
ground area. It seems that thoughts on safe disposal amounts and methods 
change every few years and expert opinions may vary depending on their 
motive, so it seems most proper to err on the side of safety and 
stewardship. It's not hard to take measures that result in the least trace 
amounts of chemicals entering the public system.

Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "EJ Photo" <ejnphoto at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'The alternative photographic processes mailing list'" 
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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Pt/Pd printing Video


> Paul, Don't you think before you cast aspersions on Mike Ware that you get
> it straight from the man instead of a , I kind of remember it this way,
> statement from Judy. In the context of a city department, a few grams here
> and there is not worth their time to police even if they know it is wrong.
> It might have been better if he offered up a solution to the problem
> disposal.
>
> To the cost of a print in the video, he does include the name of another
> person that gave him the figure. He may not have the math to convert the
> currency on the fly. It can be a little miss leading as to the actual cost
> of PT/PD printing on a cost per sheet of prepared paper. It was a cost for
> that 11x14 thrown in the trash. It could have been that that mistake
> included all the issues. I'd certainly not get too bent out of shape about
> that.
>
> But in my 30 years of PT/PD printing I have heard all sorts of insane 
> quotes
> about platinum printing, cost, cause and effects. Over all the 
> presentation
> is very good. Relaxed, loose, informative but alludes to just how many
> issues you can or may need to pay attention to when printing.
>
>
>
> Eric Neilsen
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> Dallas, TX 75226
>
> www.ericneilsenphotography.com
> skype me with ejprinter
> www.ericneilsenphotography.com/forum1
> Let's Talk Photography
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org
> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf 
> Of
> Paul Viapiano
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:00 PM
> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Pt/Pd printing Video
>
> I call bullshit on Mike Ware...
>
> If you care of stewardship for the land, you will make the small effort to
> bring your waste, however minute or dilute you may think it is, to a local
> toxic disposal center. Or you can always evaporate the water from a
> dichromated solution and make it easier to dispose of in a proper manner.
>
> Judy, I've heard you tell this stort before and I don't doubt it, but that
> type of cavalier attitude by the "captain" is exactly what's wrong with so
> many "experts".
>
> Be on the safe side, care about where you live, do the right thing. 
> Period.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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