[alt-photo] Re: Paper Negatives

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Paul,
Refresh my memory:  what do you feel is the advantage of
these waxed paper negatives over Inkpress, Pictorico, or
Arista OHP?  Taking time, mess, purchase of beeswax and
Epson paper, for instance.  Is there a visual effect that
you achieve with the thicker paper? And if it is only cost,
have you figured out a per-negative cost to doing it this
way?
I have never tried it, finding Pictorico excellent, but for
BW this would have some good possibilities.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Viapiano" <viapiano at pacbell.net>
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Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Paper Negatives
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:32:24 -0800

>Doug...
>
>I used Peter's View Camera article as a guide to getting
>started.
>
>I use Epson High Quality Inkjet Paper, and an Epson 3800 in
>ABW mode. After  I print the negative, I heat it up on a
>cookie sheet on top of an electric  stove burner, set to
>low.
>
>(My stove is a closed system with no elements exposed,
>which would cause a  problem with melted wax. Believe me, a
>friend almost burned down her house  melting wax on a gas
>stove. I'm not sure of the flammability of beeswax, but 
>THIS IS A WARNING WHICH SHOULD BE HEEDED. Peter uses an
>electric griddle,  which you can pick up at any Target or
>housewares store.)
>
>I then melt pure white beeswax (from Michael's) on both
>sides of the neg  while wiping excess with paper towels.
>The neg will become very translucent,  almost as
>translucent as film...you'll be surprised. This part takes
>a  little practice...too much wax and you get streaking.
>
>I used ChartThrob to calibrate the negatives. I also needed
>to tweak the CT  curve and add an additional curve to
>control contrast.
>
>Tweaking is the hardest and most painstaking part, but once
>it's dialed in  you're good to go. I should mention that
>I've used these negs for pure gum  (single and tricolor)
>only so far...
>
>Hope this helps...
>
>Paul
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Doug Taylor" <dougtaylor13 at mac.com>
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><alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
>Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:27 PM
>Subject: [alt-photo] Paper Negatives
>
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> I've not made paper negatives before but did look at
>> Peter's website  and  his work is very nice. Which Epson
>> paper is used and which side of  the  paper negative is
>> waxed? Also, do you use QTR to calibrate the  negative 
>for the alt process? Any input to get me started would be 
>> helpful. I have  made digital negatives before and used
>> them to print  cyanotype and  palladium prints.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>
>>> Right, I was talking PC on my end...
>>>
>>> John, have you tried making paper negatives on Epson
>>> inkjet paper  and  waxing them?
>>>
>>> It's a lot to go through but the prints are wonderful.
>>> Check out  Peter  Liepke's work.
>>>
>>> http://www.peterliepke.com/
>>>
>>> I've been using them for gum prints, single and
>>> tri-color, and they  are  marvelous...and cheap! But if
>>> it's perfect sharpness you're  looking for,  OHP will
>>>win out there, but you'd be surprised at the  paper negs.
>>> The paper negs print with ABW in the Epson driver.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>>
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