[alt-photo] Re: Paper Negatives

[Loris Medici]

Paul will give his genuine answer to that question but if I'm not
mistaking he was exposing using sunlight and his location (CA, IIRC)
has plenty of good/strong sunlight rich of UV. Maybe it's a way to
control very fast exposures? Also (speculating even more) I think the
paper will give the layers some kind of organic/random screen, which
maybe is good for gum since the process is easier (both the practice
itself and stronger image) with textured subjects. ???

Not that I answer it in place of Paul but your question (very logical
to me BTW) had me think about these and just wanted to mention...

Regards,
Loris.


2010/2/8 zphoto at montana.net <zphoto at montana.net>:
> Paul,
> Refresh my memory:  what do you feel is the advantage of
> these waxed paper negatives over Inkpress, Pictorico, or
> Arista OHP?  Taking time, mess, purchase of beeswax and
> Epson paper, for instance.  Is there a visual effect that
> you achieve with the thicker paper? And if it is only cost,
> have you figured out a per-negative cost to doing it this
> way?
> I have never tried it, finding Pictorico excellent, but for
> BW this would have some good possibilities.
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Viapiano" <viapiano at pacbell.net>
> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list"
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> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Paper Negatives
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:32:24 -0800
>
>>Doug...
>>
>>I used Peter's View Camera article as a guide to getting
>>started.
>>
>>I use Epson High Quality Inkjet Paper, and an Epson 3800 in
>>ABW mode. After  I print the negative, I heat it up on a
>>cookie sheet on top of an electric  stove burner, set to
>>low.
>>
>>(My stove is a closed system with no elements exposed,
>>which would cause a  problem with melted wax. Believe me, a
>>friend almost burned down her house  melting wax on a gas
>>stove. I'm not sure of the flammability of beeswax, but
>>THIS IS A WARNING WHICH SHOULD BE HEEDED. Peter uses an
>>electric griddle,  which you can pick up at any Target or
>>housewares store.)
>>
>>I then melt pure white beeswax (from Michael's) on both
>>sides of the neg  while wiping excess with paper towels.
>>The neg will become very translucent,  almost as
>>translucent as film...you'll be surprised. This part takes
>>a  little practice...too much wax and you get streaking.
>>
>>I used ChartThrob to calibrate the negatives. I also needed
>>to tweak the CT  curve and add an additional curve to
>>control contrast.
>>
>>Tweaking is the hardest and most painstaking part, but once
>>it's dialed in  you're good to go. I should mention that
>>I've used these negs for pure gum  (single and tricolor)
>>only so far...
>>
>>Hope this helps...
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Doug Taylor" <dougtaylor13 at mac.com>
>>To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list"
>><alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:27 PM
>>Subject: [alt-photo] Paper Negatives
>>
>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> I've not made paper negatives before but did look at
>>> Peter's website  and  his work is very nice. Which Epson
>>> paper is used and which side of  the  paper negative is
>>> waxed? Also, do you use QTR to calibrate the  negative
>>for the alt process? Any input to get me started would be
>>> helpful. I have  made digital negatives before and used
>>> them to print  cyanotype and  palladium prints.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right, I was talking PC on my end...
>>>>
>>>> John, have you tried making paper negatives on Epson
>>>> inkjet paper  and  waxing them?
>>>>
>>>> It's a lot to go through but the prints are wonderful.
>>>> Check out  Peter  Liepke's work.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.peterliepke.com/
>>>>
>>>> I've been using them for gum prints, single and
>>>> tri-color, and they  are  marvelous...and cheap! But if
>>>> it's perfect sharpness you're  looking for,  OHP will
>>>>win out there, but you'd be surprised at the  paper negs.
>>>> The paper negs print with ABW in the Epson driver.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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